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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    In February 2014, Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina transfers $3.5 billion.

    In April and May 2014, Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky places Hunter Biden and Devon Archer on the board of Burisma, Zlochevsky’s corrupt energy company, at a cool $1 million per year each. Archer is Hunter’s partner in the “Rosemont Seneca” business entities used to transfer money to the Bidens, and he is well aware of Joe Biden’s deep involvement in the family business — because Joe Biden is the business.

    In April 2014, a Kazakhstani oligarch wires Hunter $143,300 for a sports car.

    Former federal prosecutor McCarthy should know none of these are crimes.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #8

      And this? What does it even mean? To whom? For what?

      In February 2014, Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina transfers $3.5 billion.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #9

        George - serious question for you.

        In 2022, Saudi Arabia transferred $2 billion to Jared Kushner’s new company.

        Should there be an indictment?

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          In February 2014, Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina transfers $3.5 billion.

          In April and May 2014, Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky places Hunter Biden and Devon Archer on the board of Burisma, Zlochevsky’s corrupt energy company, at a cool $1 million per year each. Archer is Hunter’s partner in the “Rosemont Seneca” business entities used to transfer money to the Bidens, and he is well aware of Joe Biden’s deep involvement in the family business — because Joe Biden is the business.

          In April 2014, a Kazakhstani oligarch wires Hunter $143,300 for a sports car.

          Former federal prosecutor McCarthy should know none of these are crimes.

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

          Former federal prosecutor McCarthy should know none of these are crimes.

          Neither is saying an election was stolen, but you seem to have no problem with that prosecution.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #11

            You need to read the indictment so you sound less stupid.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

            HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              George - serious question for you.

              In 2022, Saudi Arabia transferred $2 billion to Jared Kushner’s new company.

              Should there be an indictment?

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              George K
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              #12

              @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

              In 2022, Saudi Arabia transferred $2 billion to Jared Kushner’s new company.

              Should there be an indictment?

              Yeah, I've seen that said, many times.

              Start the investigation. Democrats hold the Senate, and have for a long time.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                You need to read the indictment so you sound less stupid.

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #13

                @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                You need to read the indictment so you sound less stupid.

                My information comes from the same people as you, jon. Let's please stop pretending you read or understand things on your own, it's tedious after all these years of your posing.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  In February 2014, Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina transfers $3.5 billion.

                  In April and May 2014, Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky places Hunter Biden and Devon Archer on the board of Burisma, Zlochevsky’s corrupt energy company, at a cool $1 million per year each. Archer is Hunter’s partner in the “Rosemont Seneca” business entities used to transfer money to the Bidens, and he is well aware of Joe Biden’s deep involvement in the family business — because Joe Biden is the business.

                  In April 2014, a Kazakhstani oligarch wires Hunter $143,300 for a sports car.

                  Former federal prosecutor McCarthy should know none of these are crimes.

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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                  Former federal prosecutor McCarthy should know none of these are crimes.

                  I don't believe he actually says those are crimes - yet. He's pointing out the quid while the quo has not yet been disclosed.

                  But, here's a nice summary of how this has gone so far.

                  • Joe Biden didn’t even know what Hunter was doing
                  • Joe Biden has a vague sense but never discussed business with Hunter
                  • Joe Biden never talked to Hunter’s business partners
                  • Joe Biden talked to them, but only about the weather
                  • Joe Biden met with Hunter’s business partners but it had nothing to do with Hunter
                  • Prove that those millions of dollars went directly to Joe or it is all fine and dandy.

                  It's all smoke and no fire so far. But there's a lot of smoke.

                  I refer you to John Kass's column I linked a couple of days ago:

                  https://johnkassnews.com/the-illusion-of-access-to-joe-biden-for-chumbolones/

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
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                    #15

                    There will be no signed receipt for services offered. The millions of dollars were a retainer, but Biden, because he's moral and upstanding, would be shocked to learn he owed his client a favor. A favor he certainly never repaid.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      A question: What, exactly, was Hunter Biden doing that was worth $20MM?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        A question: What, exactly, was Hunter Biden doing that was worth $20MM?

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                        Horace
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                        @George-K said in $20,000,000:

                        A question: What, exactly, was Hunter Biden doing that was worth $20MM?

                        Maybe even jon would admit that he was overtly selling the appearance of American political influence.

                        We are then supposed to believe that the appearance was only that, an appearance, with no substance behind it.

                        Because Russian Oligarchs are rubes, fools with money, easily parted.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                          In 2022, Saudi Arabia transferred $2 billion to Jared Kushner’s new company.

                          Should there be an indictment?

                          Yeah, I've seen that said, many times.

                          Start the investigation. Democrats hold the Senate, and have for a long time.

                          jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #18

                          @George-K said in $20,000,000:

                          @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                          In 2022, Saudi Arabia transferred $2 billion to Jared Kushner’s new company.

                          Should there be an indictment?

                          Yeah, I've seen that said, many times.

                          Start the investigation. Democrats hold the Senate, and have for a long time.

                          McCarthy isn’t calling for a congressional investigation, which is ongoing, he’s calling for an indictment.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                            You need to read the indictment so you sound less stupid.

                            My information comes from the same people as you, jon. Let's please stop pretending you read or understand things on your own, it's tedious after all these years of your posing.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #19

                            @Horace said in $20,000,000:

                            @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                            You need to read the indictment so you sound less stupid.

                            My information comes from the same people as you, jon. Let's please stop pretending you read or understand things on your own, it's tedious after all these years of your posing.

                            Posing? Says the guy who started paying attention to politics 12 minutes ago and now calls himself a “public intellectual”.

                            As for sources, sure we have access to the same ones but we both know you’ve not read the indictment.

                            Here’s paragraph 3:

                            The Defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • George KG George K

                              A question: What, exactly, was Hunter Biden doing that was worth $20MM?

                              jon-nycJ Offline
                              jon-nycJ Offline
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @George-K said in $20,000,000:

                              A question: What, exactly, was Hunter Biden doing that was worth $20MM?

                              Trading on his name and relationships, like Jared with the $2B.

                              As I’ve said repeatedly, the question is how do we make this illegal?

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Horace said in $20,000,000:

                                @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                                You need to read the indictment so you sound less stupid.

                                My information comes from the same people as you, jon. Let's please stop pretending you read or understand things on your own, it's tedious after all these years of your posing.

                                Posing? Says the guy who started paying attention to politics 12 minutes ago and now calls himself a “public intellectual”.

                                As for sources, sure we have access to the same ones but we both know you’ve not read the indictment.

                                Here’s paragraph 3:

                                The Defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won.

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                                Horace
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                                @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                                @Horace said in $20,000,000:

                                @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                                You need to read the indictment so you sound less stupid.

                                My information comes from the same people as you, jon. Let's please stop pretending you read or understand things on your own, it's tedious after all these years of your posing.

                                Posing? Says the guy who started paying attention to politics 12 minutes ago and now calls himself a “public intellectual”.

                                It's called "parody". Like a parody of someone who claims to have read a shelf full of philosophy books, but who would have difficulty writing more than a paragraph summary of the ideas therein.

                                As for sources, sure we have access to the same ones but we both know you’ve not read the indictment.

                                I never claimed to, I'll let experts read it and tell me about it. Just like you.

                                Granted, I believe your eyes have passed over the indictment. It's basically pornography for you.

                                Here’s paragraph 3:

                                The Defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won.

                                My mistake. You don't believe that lying about election fraud is criminal per se.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @George-K said in $20,000,000:

                                  A question: What, exactly, was Hunter Biden doing that was worth $20MM?

                                  Trading on his name and relationships, like Jared with the $2B.

                                  As I’ve said repeatedly, the question is how do we make this illegal?

                                  HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
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                                  @jon-nyc said in $20,000,000:

                                  @George-K said in $20,000,000:

                                  A question: What, exactly, was Hunter Biden doing that was worth $20MM?

                                  Trading on his name and relationships, like Jared with the $2B.

                                  As I’ve said repeatedly, the question is how do we make this illegal?

                                  We don't, we just move forward with an adult understanding that if Biden owes such a favor, and can exert influence in a plausibly deniable way to repay it, he would.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @George-K said in $20,000,000:

                                    A question: What, exactly, was Hunter Biden doing that was worth $20MM?

                                    Maybe even jon would admit that he was overtly selling the appearance of American political influence.

                                    We are then supposed to believe that the appearance was only that, an appearance, with no substance behind it.

                                    Because Russian Oligarchs are rubes, fools with money, easily parted.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    @Horace said in $20,000,000:

                                    Because Russian Oligarchs are rubes, fools with money, easily parted.

                                    And here's where it doesn't pass the sniff test. These people are not stupid and they ain't paying money for nothing.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Horace said in $20,000,000:

                                      Because Russian Oligarchs are rubes, fools with money, easily parted.

                                      And here's where it doesn't pass the sniff test. These people are not stupid and they ain't paying money for nothing.

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                                      George K
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                                      @Jolly said in $20,000,000:

                                      And here's where it doesn't pass the sniff test. These people are not stupid and they ain't paying money for nothing.

                                      Wife of Moscow's mayor makes a gift to Hunter Biden.

                                      Russia invades Ukraine.

                                      Said wife does not end up on sanctioned oligarch list.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        That’s right,Jared’s crime forgives Hunter’s.

                                        Next case.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Jolly said in $20,000,000:

                                          And here's where it doesn't pass the sniff test. These people are not stupid and they ain't paying money for nothing.

                                          Wife of Moscow's mayor makes a gift to Hunter Biden.

                                          Russia invades Ukraine.

                                          Said wife does not end up on sanctioned oligarch list.

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                                          Axtremus
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                                          @George-K said in $20,000,000:

                                          @Jolly said in $20,000,000:

                                          And here's where it doesn't pass the sniff test. These people are not stupid and they ain't paying money for nothing.

                                          Wife of Moscow's mayor makes a gift to Hunter Biden.

                                          Russia invades Ukraine.

                                          Said wife does not end up on sanctioned oligarch list.

                                          Are there other oligarchs who have not given anything to Hunter Biden and still not end up on sanctioned oligarch list?

                                          Are there oligarchs on the sanctioned oligarch list who have given gifts to Hunter Biden?

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