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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    Of course, a coincident the movie is named Gerry considering Horace's article. That is a sad outcome. A little baffling that she didn't find the nearby routes to logging roads, creeks, etc. But perhaps she waited for a few days for a rescue and by then was too tired to do much else. It said she lasted almost 30 days in her make-shift tent site before she died from exposure/starvation.

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      Horace
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      Or that guy who got his arm trapped by a boulder in an Arizona canyon. All he had to do was cut off his arm, but somehow he didn't even realize it for like 4 days. Real head-slap moment when it finally dawned on him.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        I know a bit more off-grid stuff than the average bear, but a tent? In the wintertime in that part of the world?

        No way...

        https://nypost.com/2023/07/25/two-sisters-teen-boys-remains-found-at-remote-colorado-campsite/

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #7

        @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

        I know a bit more off-grid stuff than the average bear, but a tent? In the wintertime in that part of the world?

        No way...

        https://nypost.com/2023/07/25/two-sisters-teen-boys-remains-found-at-remote-colorado-campsite/

        It looks like they died before the winter… it sounds like they starved as much as froze to death… Though I wouldn’t be surprised to find out they poisoned themselves.

        You can do it with the right equipment. It wouldn’t be comfortable, but with a 4-season tent, a layered sleeping bag, a sleeping pad, a solid base layer, and good boots and socks you would be amazed at the temperatures you can camp in for an extended period…

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

          I know a bit more off-grid stuff than the average bear, but a tent? In the wintertime in that part of the world?

          No way...

          https://nypost.com/2023/07/25/two-sisters-teen-boys-remains-found-at-remote-colorado-campsite/

          It looks like they died before the winter… it sounds like they starved as much as froze to death… Though I wouldn’t be surprised to find out they poisoned themselves.

          You can do it with the right equipment. It wouldn’t be comfortable, but with a 4-season tent, a layered sleeping bag, a sleeping pad, a solid base layer, and good boots and socks you would be amazed at the temperatures you can camp in for an extended period…

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          @LuFins-Dad said in Death by Stupidity:

          @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

          I know a bit more off-grid stuff than the average bear, but a tent? In the wintertime in that part of the world?

          No way...

          https://nypost.com/2023/07/25/two-sisters-teen-boys-remains-found-at-remote-colorado-campsite/

          It looks like they died before the winter… it sounds like they starved as much as froze to death… Though I wouldn’t be surprised to find out they poisoned themselves.

          You can do it with the right equipment. It wouldn’t be comfortable, but with a 4-season tent, a layered sleeping bag, a sleeping pad, a solid base layer, and good boots and socks you would be amazed at the temperatures you can camp in for an extended period…

          "To Build a Fire."

          Like I said before, prep and knowledge can help but it's silly to believe you can't die.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @LuFins-Dad said in Death by Stupidity:

            @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

            I know a bit more off-grid stuff than the average bear, but a tent? In the wintertime in that part of the world?

            No way...

            https://nypost.com/2023/07/25/two-sisters-teen-boys-remains-found-at-remote-colorado-campsite/

            It looks like they died before the winter… it sounds like they starved as much as froze to death… Though I wouldn’t be surprised to find out they poisoned themselves.

            You can do it with the right equipment. It wouldn’t be comfortable, but with a 4-season tent, a layered sleeping bag, a sleeping pad, a solid base layer, and good boots and socks you would be amazed at the temperatures you can camp in for an extended period…

            "To Build a Fire."

            Like I said before, prep and knowledge can help but it's silly to believe you can't die.

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Death by Stupidity:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Death by Stupidity:

            @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

            I know a bit more off-grid stuff than the average bear, but a tent? In the wintertime in that part of the world?

            No way...

            https://nypost.com/2023/07/25/two-sisters-teen-boys-remains-found-at-remote-colorado-campsite/

            It looks like they died before the winter… it sounds like they starved as much as froze to death… Though I wouldn’t be surprised to find out they poisoned themselves.

            You can do it with the right equipment. It wouldn’t be comfortable, but with a 4-season tent, a layered sleeping bag, a sleeping pad, a solid base layer, and good boots and socks you would be amazed at the temperatures you can camp in for an extended period…

            "To Build a Fire."

            Like I said before, prep and knowledge can help but it's silly to believe you can't die.

            Well that’s the first thing you have to know. This is dangerous and if you screw up it can/will have dire consequences.

            Speaking of fires, it’s amazing to me how many “experienced” campers can’t understand why their pine fire isn’t burning very hot…

            The Brad

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #10

              And it takes a lot of pine or birch to get through a winter.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                And it takes a lot of pine or birch to get through a winter.

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                @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

                And it takes a lot of pine or birch to get through a winter.

                A lot more pine than birch. Birch is a pretty decent firewood. Pine works well to get a fire going quickly, but it doesn’t burn hot and sputters out easily.

                The Brad

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                  Well...knew a couple of brothers who made it one year burning tires...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

                    And it takes a lot of pine or birch to get through a winter.

                    A lot more pine than birch. Birch is a pretty decent firewood. Pine works well to get a fire going quickly, but it doesn’t burn hot and sputters out easily.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Death by Stupidity:

                    @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

                    And it takes a lot of pine or birch to get through a winter.

                    A lot more pine than birch. Birch is a pretty decent firewood. Pine works well to get a fire going quickly, but it doesn’t burn hot and sputters out easily.

                    Plus have fun breathing in all that soot.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Death by Stupidity:

                      @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

                      And it takes a lot of pine or birch to get through a winter.

                      A lot more pine than birch. Birch is a pretty decent firewood. Pine works well to get a fire going quickly, but it doesn’t burn hot and sputters out easily.

                      Plus have fun breathing in all that soot.

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Death by Stupidity:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Death by Stupidity:

                      @Jolly said in Death by Stupidity:

                      And it takes a lot of pine or birch to get through a winter.

                      A lot more pine than birch. Birch is a pretty decent firewood. Pine works well to get a fire going quickly, but it doesn’t burn hot and sputters out easily.

                      Plus have fun breathing in all that soot.

                      Oh yeah… If you want to smoke food with a wood that doesn’t taste very good, cook with pine…

                      The Brad

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        #15

                        This reminds me of a good show, “Alone” on the History channel. It’s been on for many seasons now but start with the early seasons. It’s basically a real “survivor”. Last person standing wins. 10 contestants, you can bring a few supplies, otherwise it’s 100% on your own. Usually takes like 60-100 days for a last constant to be declared the winner.

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                          #16

                          Oh they’re all placed in the same wilderness (such as on the coast line in British Columbia) but not within a few miles of another contestant.

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                            Yup, it is amazing how many people go into the wilderness with neither the experience or equipment, usually both. There are always sad stories about people who, for one or other reason, overestimate their abilities. Sad. 😞

                            One sadexample of a really experienced long distance hiker who basically documented his own death as he became overcome by weather.

                            https://www.outsideonline.com/2336896/snowbound/

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