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    Jolly
    wrote on 20 Jul 2023, 20:34 last edited by Jolly
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    Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      20 Jul 2023, 20:34

      Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

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      George K
      wrote on 20 Jul 2023, 21:07 last edited by George K
      #3

      @Jolly said in Grassley releases the 1023:

      Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

      Well, if you look at the press coverage of yesterday's hearings, you'd think that nothing happened.

      Hay, WaPo! Where does democracy die again?

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • J Jolly
        20 Jul 2023, 20:34

        Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

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        Horace
        wrote on 20 Jul 2023, 21:14 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in Grassley releases the 1023:

        Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

        When the other side is an existential threat, yes. We have reached the point where the favored side can literally do no wrong. That’s the simplified beauty of existential threats. Nobody has to think anymore, if they’re in the business of avoiding them.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • G George K
          20 Jul 2023, 21:07

          @Jolly said in Grassley releases the 1023:

          Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

          Well, if you look at the press coverage of yesterday's hearings, you'd think that nothing happened.

          Hay, WaPo! Where does democracy die again?

          image.png

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          Jolly
          wrote on 20 Jul 2023, 23:49 last edited by
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          @George-K said in Grassley releases the 1023:

          @Jolly said in Grassley releases the 1023:

          Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

          Well, if you look at the press coverage of yesterday's hearings, you'd think that nothing happened.

          Hay, WaPo! Where does democracy die again?

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          When you purposely omit one of the biggest stories of the day from the front page, shouldn't the name be changed to Pravda or something?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 11:03 last edited by
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            For WaPo Democracy Dying in Darkness is a feature, not a bug.

            The Brad

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              George K
              wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 11:41 last edited by George K
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              You'd think that a story alleging bribery, extortion, money laundering and a protection racket involving the then-vice president and current POTUS would merit a mention on the front page of the paper of Woodward and Bernstein, wouldn't you?

              Nope...

              What gets the front page of WaPo?

              Football
              Abortion
              Soccer - women's soccer, of course
              Clarence Thomas
              (of course) Trump

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 11:47 last edited by
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                One would think so, yes.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • J Jolly
                  20 Jul 2023, 20:34

                  Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

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                  Jon
                  wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 13:34 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Grassley releases the 1023:

                  Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

                  If we had evidence of actual bribery, sure. What we have are reports of an Eastern European businessman bragging that he bribed a powerful person.

                  If there’s a there there I assume Weiss will find it.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 13:38 last edited by
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                    Kinda like investigating a bag of coke in the Whitehouse, eh?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 13:38 last edited by
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                      My guess is that there won't be a signed receipt for Biden exerting some influence in return for a W-2 income from the eastern europeans.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Jon
                        wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 13:39 last edited by
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                        Evidence of payment should be traceable.

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                        • J Jon
                          21 Jul 2023, 13:34

                          @Jolly said in Grassley releases the 1023:

                          Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

                          If we had evidence of actual bribery, sure. What we have are reports of an Eastern European businessman bragging that he bribed a powerful person.

                          If there’s a there there I assume Weiss will find it.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 13:44 last edited by
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                          @Jon said in Grassley releases the 1023:

                          If there’s a there there I assume Weiss will find it.

                          LOL

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • J Jon
                            21 Jul 2023, 13:34

                            @Jolly said in Grassley releases the 1023:

                            Have we reached the point where outright bribery generates no outrage?

                            If we had evidence of actual bribery, sure. What we have are reports of an Eastern European businessman bragging that he bribed a powerful person.

                            If there’s a there there I assume Weiss will find it.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 13:45 last edited by
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                            @Jon said in Grassley releases the 1023:

                            What we have are reports of an Eastern European businessman bragging that he bribed a powerful person.

                            The businessman said this to a FBI CHS who has a long-standing relationship with the bureau.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Jon
                              wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 13:52 last edited by
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                              Not sure what the significance of that is. It’s still a guy bragging.

                              If Joe took money it should be traceable.

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                              • J Jon
                                21 Jul 2023, 13:52

                                Not sure what the significance of that is. It’s still a guy bragging.

                                If Joe took money it should be traceable.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 13:54 last edited by
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                                @Jon said in Grassley releases the 1023:

                                Not sure what the significance of that is. It’s still a guy bragging.

                                A similar story (Steele) had fantastic significance in 2016.

                                And, son of a bitch, the bragging guy is Biden, if you recall.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  21 Jul 2023, 13:54

                                  @Jon said in Grassley releases the 1023:

                                  Not sure what the significance of that is. It’s still a guy bragging.

                                  A similar story (Steele) had fantastic significance in 2016.

                                  And, son of a bitch, the bragging guy is Biden, if you recall.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 14:43 last edited by
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                                  @George-K said in Grassley releases the 1023:

                                  A similar story (Steele) had fantastic significance in 2016.

                                  CNN's story on the Steele dossier.

                                  Spot the difference.

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • J Jon
                                    21 Jul 2023, 13:39

                                    Evidence of payment should be traceable.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 21 Jul 2023, 16:34 last edited by
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                                    @Jon said in Grassley releases the 1023:

                                    Evidence of payment should be traceable.

                                    But he has a right to privacy, as affirmed by Roe v. Wade.

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