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DeSantis is officially in

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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    #38

    https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-gop-primary-election-tracker

    Bad news for DeSantis. Continuing his downward trend, DeSantis is down to 19% support among Republicans, vs. 59% for Trump. Pence comes in 3rd place at 8%.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #39

      Polls are really kind of meaningless right now. Get back to me after the South Carolina primary...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        #40

        In interviews with Trump supporters during his latest indictment, the "street interviews" made it clear they really want Trump but also expect DeSantis to easily fill the void if Trump drops out later. Some folks even had Trump-DeSantis hats on saying they are hedging their bets in case Trump is out later.

        I'd very surprised if anyone but DeSantis wins the nomination if Trump is out.

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        • 89th8 89th

          In interviews with Trump supporters during his latest indictment, the "street interviews" made it clear they really want Trump but also expect DeSantis to easily fill the void if Trump drops out later. Some folks even had Trump-DeSantis hats on saying they are hedging their bets in case Trump is out later.

          I'd very surprised if anyone but DeSantis wins the nomination if Trump is out.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #41

          @89th said in DeSantis is officially in:

          In interviews with Trump supporters during his latest indictment, the "street interviews" made it clear they really want Trump but also expect DeSantis to easily fill the void if Trump drops out later. Some folks even had Trump-DeSantis hats on saying they are hedging their bets in case Trump is out later.

          I'd very surprised if anyone but DeSantis wins the nomination if Trump is out.

          That is NOT what I have seen. With the very rare exception (the retired Marine pilot that I mentioned before), every general Pro-Trump person have become EXTREMELY protectionist over Trump and are even turning against DeSantis as much or more so than Biden. At the end of the day, without a MAJOR shakeup, the pro-Trumpers are going to get Biden elected.

          The Brad

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
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            #42

            Spring is an eternity away.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #43

              DeSantis Campaign Stalls

              Six weeks after launching his campaign, DeSantis has stalled.

              His support in national polls has stayed flat, despite increased travel and advertising and widespread expectations that he would be a formidable challenger to Trump. Signs also have emerged that he is struggling to gain traction in the states that will hold the first nomination balloting. A recent poll of New Hampshire voters showed DeSantis having lost 10 points since the previous survey in March, while twice-indicted Trump gained 5 points.

              While DeSantis clearly sits in second place and many Republican voters say they like him, an expansive field of candidates makes it harder for him to consolidate support among those looking to move past the former president. He is trying to sell himself to Republican Trump foes, many of whom are moderate. At the same time, he is appealing to Trump fans by portraying himself as more conservative on key issues.

              “There is this real conflicted nature to the DeSantis messaging,” said Craig Robinson, a former political director of the Republican Party of Iowa.

              The DeSantis campaign last week circulated a provocative video portraying Trump as soft on LGBTQ issues. The Log Cabin Republicans, a group representing LGBTQ conservatives that hasn’t picked a candidate for 2024, said the video, with images of drag queens and muscular men, was antigay, while others thought it was in poor taste. In an interview this week with a conservative host, DeSantis called the subject “totally fair game.”

              It is still at least six months before the first voting, and DeSantis has a well-financed operation. After months of seeming discomfort with the rituals of retail politics, he is taking more questions from voters and trying to show a personable side, often joined by his wife, Casey, and their three young children.

              Those close to DeSantis say there is no panic, but some donors have begun to express concern, people familiar with the discussions say. This week Steve Cortes, a spokesman for a super PAC supporting the governor, drew unflattering headlines for comments about being “way behind” in national polls and facing “an uphill battle.” Cortes said in a follow-up statement that DeSantis has a strong path to the nomination)

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #44

                In a 2 man race DeSantis is beating Trump in individual state races.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  In a 2 man race DeSantis is beating Trump in individual state races.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #45

                  @LuFins-Dad said in DeSantis is officially in:

                  In a 2 man race DeSantis is beating Trump in individual state races.

                  Really? Gotta link for that? I'd love to see.

                  Sadly, it's not a 2 man race. I suspect the "single-digit candidates" are sucking a lot of oxygen out of DeSantis's campaign and polling. I wonder if the RNC will have a sit-down with them and say, "Now, listen up..."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    89th
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                    #46

                    Yup, that happened in 2016 with Jeb Bush's support fragmenting across the other non-Trump candidates. Would be a shame if the GOP hasn't learned from that lesson.

                    Heck, the DNC almost followed suit with Biden if it wasn't for Jim Clyburn endorsing him in South Carolina. Otherwise we'd be sitting here with a President Trump (or President Sanders).

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #47

                      Saw DeSantis get tagged with the Jeb label today.

                      He still has time to bounce back, but they better nail Trump on something...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • AxtremusA Away
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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                        #48

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/22/desantis-florida-republicans-governor-elections-00117514

                        DeSantis' campaign is losing steam. Florida GOP waiting for DeSantis to drop out.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/22/desantis-florida-republicans-governor-elections-00117514

                          DeSantis' campaign is losing steam. Florida GOP waiting for DeSantis to drop out.

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                          Horace
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                          @Axtremus said in DeSantis is officially in:

                          https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/22/desantis-florida-republicans-governor-elections-00117514

                          DeSantis' campaign is losing steam. Florida GOP waiting for DeSantis to drop out.

                          DeSantis is one of Florida’s most powerful governors

                          That piece is packed with data like this.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • AxtremusA Away
                            AxtremusA Away
                            Axtremus
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                            #50

                            https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article281385678.html

                            DeSantis losing ground to Trump -- in Florida.

                            Trump campaign merch outsells DeSantis campaign merch. Five Florida legislators who previously endorsed DeSantis now endorse Trump.

                            And ...

                            The event schedule included all the major Republican presidential candidates except former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
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                              #51

                              Smells like fear.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                kluurs
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                                #52

                                Not sure how squirrelly things can get. Stay Tuned for the 2028 election where Lauren Boebert faces off against Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

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                                • kluursK kluurs

                                  Not sure how squirrelly things can get. Stay Tuned for the 2028 election where Lauren Boebert faces off against Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #53

                                  @kluurs said in DeSantis is officially in:

                                  Not sure how squirrelly things can get. Stay Tuned for the 2028 election where Lauren Boebert faces off against Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

                                  Be a heckuva cage match...Two barmaids having at it...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    #54

                                    Neither of the two are “maids”, thank you very much…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #55

                                      Oh, I think they've been made more than once...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        taiwan_girl
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                                        https://www.npr.org/2023/11/05/1210771417/iowa-gov-kim-reynolds-tried-to-remain-neutral-on-monday-shell-endorse-ron-desant

                                        Don't know if it will matter, but it will be interesting to see how President Trump responds. "She would not be there except for me and my support. She is a RINO and a LOSER!!"

                                        Iowa's popular Republican governor, Kim Reynolds, will endorse her fellow governor, Florida's Ron DeSantis, in the Iowa Caucus, according to a source familiar with the matter. She will appear at an event alongside DeSantis in Des Moines on Monday evening.

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