The potential chaos of Election Day
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@Horace said in The potential chaos of Election Day:
There is no way he can simply refuse to leave the WH without a military coup;
There is no way he can simply refuse to leave the WH without a military escort.
FIFY.
What is aggravating is that every reference you read about his possibly refusing to leave is speculative. What if-what if-what if.
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Who has faith in our voting systems?
A few anecdotal cases of fraud could grab the headlines and drive public opinion.
If Mr. Trump cries Fraud! the seeds of TDS have already been planted. Even if fraud is obvious the conclusion that he is crazy has and ready been made.
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I appreciate that someone took the time to think through loopholes which would not require a military coup but the level of special pleading involved is difficult to determine. What's not difficult to determine is how much fun such thought exercises are for people who hate Donald Trump.
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@jon-nyc said in The potential chaos of Election Day:
I spelled out that precise scenario as a reasonable concern, a couple weeks ago.
Sorry, missed it.
I thought this part was kind of cool, I didn't know that (although it's logical).
At noon on Jan. 20, 2021, the Secret Service and the military are constitutionally mandated to shift their allegiance to the declared winner
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Yeah the real issue would be if the electoral college is prevented from meeting or if a state sends two separate sets of electors (as happened in FL 1876)
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I do remember 1976. I turned 8 that year.
My little town in Ohio painted all the fire hydrants to look like founding fathers.
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@Horace said in The potential chaos of Election Day:
There is no way he can simply refuse to leave the WH without a military coup. Which is not a legitimate concern. Or so I dare say. If there exists a legal loophole which would not require a military coup then by all means let's close it.
I agree. A President may call fraud, but I would not think that the military would back him, nor do I think that most of the people associated with him would stand their ground either.
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@taiwan_girl said in The potential chaos of Election Day:
A President may call fraud, but I would not think that the military would back him . . .
That's why the recent mass opining by the generals. They were floating that very message, IMO.