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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Cut the budget: https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2020/06/29/de-blasio-confirms-hell-cut-1b-from-nypd-budget-1295930

    On top of the $1 billion cut in operating expenses, there will be a more than $500 million cut to the NYPD’s capital budget, with the money instead used to build youth recreation centers and for public housing developments, de Blasio said.

    Retire: https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/272-nypd-cops-file-for-retirement-since-floyd-protests/

    The flurry of Finest farewells began after the police-involved killing of George Floyd on May 25, with 272 uniformed cops putting in retirement papers from then through June 24, the NYPD says.

    That’s a 49 percent spike from the 183 officers who filed during the same period last year, according to the department.

    An NYPD source suggested the recent departures could signal a coming crisis for the 36,000-member department, which also faces a $1 billion budget reduction amid the “defund the police” furor.

    Lose Morale: https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/06/29/morale-low-lapd-rank-and-file-pandemic-civil-unrest/

    “But the vilification and the constant verbal battering of our profession has taken a huge toll on top of what they were expected to do with the protests and COVID, so morale is low right now,” he said.

    Harris said that the calls for defunding the police would be counterproductive for an agency as large as the LAPD, which does its hiring at attrition rates so the agency is not generally adding to its ranks.

    “When you start tinkering with the budget of the LAPD, even though on the onset it looks large, even $150 million will have serious impacts,” he said. “If you cut funding from us and delay recruit classes and hiring, it will create a domino effect and you’re looking at about a loss of about 800 officers over the next two years. And with the World Cup and the Olympics coming, I don’t think we can afford to do that.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      Cut the budget: https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2020/06/29/de-blasio-confirms-hell-cut-1b-from-nypd-budget-1295930

      On top of the $1 billion cut in operating expenses, there will be a more than $500 million cut to the NYPD’s capital budget, with the money instead used to build youth recreation centers and for public housing developments, de Blasio said.

      Retire: https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/272-nypd-cops-file-for-retirement-since-floyd-protests/

      The flurry of Finest farewells began after the police-involved killing of George Floyd on May 25, with 272 uniformed cops putting in retirement papers from then through June 24, the NYPD says.

      That’s a 49 percent spike from the 183 officers who filed during the same period last year, according to the department.

      An NYPD source suggested the recent departures could signal a coming crisis for the 36,000-member department, which also faces a $1 billion budget reduction amid the “defund the police” furor.

      Lose Morale: https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/06/29/morale-low-lapd-rank-and-file-pandemic-civil-unrest/

      “But the vilification and the constant verbal battering of our profession has taken a huge toll on top of what they were expected to do with the protests and COVID, so morale is low right now,” he said.

      Harris said that the calls for defunding the police would be counterproductive for an agency as large as the LAPD, which does its hiring at attrition rates so the agency is not generally adding to its ranks.

      “When you start tinkering with the budget of the LAPD, even though on the onset it looks large, even $150 million will have serious impacts,” he said. “If you cut funding from us and delay recruit classes and hiring, it will create a domino effect and you’re looking at about a loss of about 800 officers over the next two years. And with the World Cup and the Olympics coming, I don’t think we can afford to do that.

      Catseye3C Offline
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      Catseye3
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      @George-K said in No More Cops:

      On top of the $1 billion cut in operating expenses, there will be a more than $500 million cut to the NYPD’s capital budget, with the money instead used to build youth recreation centers and for public housing developments, de Blasio said.

      I don't suppose anybody thought to ask the NYPD how well these have worked in the past, hello?

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        @George-K said in No More Cops:

        On top of the $1 billion cut in operating expenses, there will be a more than $500 million cut to the NYPD’s capital budget, with the money instead used to build youth recreation centers and for public housing developments, de Blasio said.

        • NYPD capital equipment
        • youth recreation centers and for public housing developments

        It doesn't matter

        The same people will destroy either investment

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          The cost of defunding police will be measured in body count. Mostly black ones.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Actions have consequences.

            Is Detroit a noun or a verb?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • 89th8 Online
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              89th
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              #6

              I mentioned before there is a cop in my family. They are switching careers this year after 15 years of service. They are tired of serving the public only to be vilified incessantly.

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                Horace
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                the level of scorn heaped upon (white) cops by (lilly white) progressives is among the most absurd things I've ever seen. It really does take a special lack of empathy to view this issue as one-sidedly as many of those folk do.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  I mentioned before there is a cop in my family. They are switching careers this year after 15 years of service. They are tired of serving the public only to be vilified incessantly.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @89th said in No More Cops:

                  I mentioned before there is a cop in my family. They are switching careers this year after 15 years of service. They are tired of serving the public only to be vilified incessantly.

                  It's a small thing, but when I go for my walks in my little suburban town and see a police car, I make a point of giving a friendly wave. They always wave back.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    My nephew is a deputy sheriff, and says they are doing fine, and that there is a groundswell of people that wave to deputies, or make a point of thanking them.

                    That is undoubtedly true. But, the above comes via his mom, and I know he always spins things so his mom doesn't worry about what he does. She already lost one son in Iraq.

                    It's getting discouraging. Every morning I visit my usual news sites, and then here. All of the protesters that were arrested in Eugene, were let go. It's as if we're turning around to realize that the far left marxists are already seated in positions of power. Police will not be supported, until the time when police duties will include carrying out the new power structure. Those will be the new officers' expected mindset.

                    I'm to the point of hoping a full-blown riot takes place somewhere, and the police just stand back and watch. Or something like that.
                    Instead of occupying 6 blocks and stating the complete bullshit of what it means, lovefest, etc., burn down 6 blocks, would ya?

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                    • George KG George K

                      @89th said in No More Cops:

                      I mentioned before there is a cop in my family. They are switching careers this year after 15 years of service. They are tired of serving the public only to be vilified incessantly.

                      It's a small thing, but when I go for my walks in my little suburban town and see a police car, I make a point of giving a friendly wave. They always wave back.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      @George-K said in No More Cops:

                      @89th said in No More Cops:

                      I mentioned before there is a cop in my family. They are switching careers this year after 15 years of service. They are tired of serving the public only to be vilified incessantly.

                      It's a small thing, but when I go for my walks in my little suburban town and see a police car, I make a point of giving a friendly wave. They always wave back.

                      You'll be on their database now.

                      Just kidding, I actually do the same thing. Well, when I say wave, it's more of a gesture...(again just kidding)

                      I was only joking

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                      • George KG George K

                        @89th said in No More Cops:

                        I mentioned before there is a cop in my family. They are switching careers this year after 15 years of service. They are tired of serving the public only to be vilified incessantly.

                        It's a small thing, but when I go for my walks in my little suburban town and see a police car, I make a point of giving a friendly wave. They always wave back.

                        89th8 Online
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                        89th
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                        #11

                        @George-K said in No More Cops:

                        @89th said in No More Cops:

                        I mentioned before there is a cop in my family. They are switching careers this year after 15 years of service. They are tired of serving the public only to be vilified incessantly.

                        It's a small thing, but when I go for my walks in my little suburban town and see a police car, I make a point of giving a friendly wave. They always wave back.

                        Same here. 👋

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @George-K said in No More Cops:

                          @89th said in No More Cops:

                          I mentioned before there is a cop in my family. They are switching careers this year after 15 years of service. They are tired of serving the public only to be vilified incessantly.

                          It's a small thing, but when I go for my walks in my little suburban town and see a police car, I make a point of giving a friendly wave. They always wave back.

                          You'll be on their database now.

                          Just kidding, I actually do the same thing. Well, when I say wave, it's more of a gesture...(again just kidding)

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                          George K
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in No More Cops:

                          Just kidding, I actually do the same thing. Well, when I say wave, it's more of a gesture...(again just kidding)

                          They react to MAMILs in my town the same way.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
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                            My post was so last month...

                            https://nypost.com/2020/07/08/nypd-limits-retirement-applications-amid-411-surge-this-week/

                            NYPD limits retirement applications amid 400 percent surge this week

                            New York’s Finest are putting in for retirement faster than the NYPD can handle — while citing a lack of respect and the loss of overtime pay, The Post has learned.

                            A surge of city cops filing papers during the past week more than quadrupled last year’s number — as the city grapples with a surge of shootings — and the stampede caused a bottleneck that’s forcing others to delay putting in their papers, officials and sources said.

                            The NYPD said Wednesday that 179 cops filed for retirement between June 29 and Monday, an astounding 411-percent increase over the 35 who filed during the same time period in 2019.

                            The astonishing rush for the door came as 503 cops filed for retirement between May 25 — the day George Floyd was killed in Minneapolis, sparking anti-cop protests around the country — and July 3, the NYPD said.

                            That number represents a 75-percent increase over the 287 who filed for retirement during the same time last year, the NYPD said.

                            Sources said that the deluge of applications had overwhelmed the department — due to cancellation of overtime for the workers who process them — and that the number of daily applicants was being limited as a result.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Well, well, well, isn't that a staggering surprise.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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