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What the actual hell is going on in France.

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    George K
    wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 14:08 last edited by
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    This has been going on for a while after an immigrant was killed by police.

    But, wow...

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 14:18 last edited by
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      The melting pot works, but it only works under certain conditions.

      1. Be it America, France, Canada or Norway, a new immigrant must want to be there.
      2. The new immigrant should be highly encouraged to become a citizen. In this case, France first, Algeria second.
      3. You can't dump too many people into a new country and expect them to assimilate rapidly and smoothly.
      4. People need to immigrate as families, rather than as young, single males.
      5. New immigrants must bring skills or money to the table. General labor is fine, if that is what is needed.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Horace
        wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 14:35 last edited by
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        I guess this will create some "angry reactionary" French people, who will struggle to find a political voice, after being dismissed and marginalized by the left. The whole west is facing similar culture wars.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • J Jolly
          5 Jul 2023, 14:18

          The melting pot works, but it only works under certain conditions.

          1. Be it America, France, Canada or Norway, a new immigrant must want to be there.
          2. The new immigrant should be highly encouraged to become a citizen. In this case, France first, Algeria second.
          3. You can't dump too many people into a new country and expect them to assimilate rapidly and smoothly.
          4. People need to immigrate as families, rather than as young, single males.
          5. New immigrants must bring skills or money to the table. General labor is fine, if that is what is needed.
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          89th
          wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 15:03 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

          The melting pot works, but it only works under certain conditions.

          1. Be it America, France, Canada or Norway, a new immigrant must want to be there.
          2. The new immigrant should be highly encouraged to become a citizen. In this case, France first, Algeria second.
          3. You can't dump too many people into a new country and expect them to assimilate rapidly and smoothly.
          4. People need to immigrate as families, rather than as young, single males.
          5. New immigrants must bring skills or money to the table. General labor is fine, if that is what is needed.

          Yup good post.

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            Copper
            wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 15:16 last edited by Copper 7 May 2023, 15:16
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            Don't worry, this could never happen here.

            Our system documents immigrants as they enter and merges them right into a productive role.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 16:23 last edited by
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              I'll have what he's having 😄

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                5 Jul 2023, 14:35

                I guess this will create some "angry reactionary" French people, who will struggle to find a political voice, after being dismissed and marginalized by the left. The whole west is facing similar culture wars.

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                Jon
                wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 18:13 last edited by Jon 7 May 2023, 18:14
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                @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                I guess this will create some "angry reactionary" French people, who will struggle to find a political voice, after being dismissed and marginalized by the left. The whole west is facing similar culture wars.

                Maybe tell Le Pen or her father. They would be overjoyed to hear about this new development.

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                • J Jon
                  5 Jul 2023, 18:13

                  @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                  I guess this will create some "angry reactionary" French people, who will struggle to find a political voice, after being dismissed and marginalized by the left. The whole west is facing similar culture wars.

                  Maybe tell Le Pen or her father. They would be overjoyed to hear about this new development.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 18:30 last edited by
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                  @Jon said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                  Maybe tell Le Pen or her father. They would be overjoyed to hear about this new development.

                  I forget which news outlet called the riots an "opportunity" for the far-right to step up.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • J Jon
                    5 Jul 2023, 18:13

                    @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                    I guess this will create some "angry reactionary" French people, who will struggle to find a political voice, after being dismissed and marginalized by the left. The whole west is facing similar culture wars.

                    Maybe tell Le Pen or her father. They would be overjoyed to hear about this new development.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 19:23 last edited by
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                    @Jon said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                    @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                    I guess this will create some "angry reactionary" French people, who will struggle to find a political voice, after being dismissed and marginalized by the left. The whole west is facing similar culture wars.

                    Maybe tell Le Pen or her father. They would be overjoyed to hear about this new development.

                    I am sure they are aware of the demonization of their political perspective. Which was my point.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • H Horace
                      5 Jul 2023, 19:23

                      @Jon said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                      @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                      I guess this will create some "angry reactionary" French people, who will struggle to find a political voice, after being dismissed and marginalized by the left. The whole west is facing similar culture wars.

                      Maybe tell Le Pen or her father. They would be overjoyed to hear about this new development.

                      I am sure they are aware of the demonization of their political perspective. Which was my point.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 19:34 last edited by
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                      @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                      I am sure they are aware of the demonization of their political perspective. Which was my point.

                      I don't think one really needs to demonize the elder le Pen. He did that all by himself.

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        5 Jul 2023, 19:34

                        @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                        I am sure they are aware of the demonization of their political perspective. Which was my point.

                        I don't think one really needs to demonize the elder le Pen. He did that all by himself.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 19:37 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                        @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                        I am sure they are aware of the demonization of their political perspective. Which was my point.

                        I don't think one really needs to demonize the elder le Pen. He did that all by himself.

                        And now anybody who sniffs of him will be lumped in with him. SOP for political messaging against conservatives.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • H Horace
                          5 Jul 2023, 19:37

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                          @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                          I am sure they are aware of the demonization of their political perspective. Which was my point.

                          I don't think one really needs to demonize the elder le Pen. He did that all by himself.

                          And now anybody who sniffs of him will be lumped in with him. SOP for political messaging against conservatives.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 19:42 last edited by
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                          @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                          @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                          I am sure they are aware of the demonization of their political perspective. Which was my point.

                          I don't think one really needs to demonize the elder le Pen. He did that all by himself.

                          And now anybody who sniffs of him will be lumped in with him. SOP for political messaging against conservatives.

                          Well, he's founder and former leader of the RN party, so it's not wholly inappropriate to make a connection, is it?

                          And Le Pen isn't a conservative.

                          I was only joking

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                          • H Horace
                            5 Jul 2023, 19:37

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                            @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                            I am sure they are aware of the demonization of their political perspective. Which was my point.

                            I don't think one really needs to demonize the elder le Pen. He did that all by himself.

                            And now anybody who sniffs of him will be lumped in with him. SOP for political messaging against conservatives.

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                            Jon
                            wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 19:51 last edited by
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                            @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                            @Horace said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                            I am sure they are aware of the demonization of their political perspective. Which was my point.

                            I don't think one really needs to demonize the elder le Pen. He did that all by himself.

                            And now anybody who sniffs of him will be lumped in with him. SOP for political messaging against conservatives.

                            That’s been the case since literally before you were born. If anything events have brought that movement out of the closet. This will accelerate it if anything.

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                              5 Jul 2023, 15:03

                              @Jolly said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                              The melting pot works, but it only works under certain conditions.

                              1. Be it America, France, Canada or Norway, a new immigrant must want to be there.
                              2. The new immigrant should be highly encouraged to become a citizen. In this case, France first, Algeria second.
                              3. You can't dump too many people into a new country and expect them to assimilate rapidly and smoothly.
                              4. People need to immigrate as families, rather than as young, single males.
                              5. New immigrants must bring skills or money to the table. General labor is fine, if that is what is needed.

                              Yup good post.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 00:33 last edited by
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                              @89th said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                              @Jolly said in What the actual hell is going on in France.:

                              The melting pot works, but it only works under certain conditions.

                              1. Be it America, France, Canada or Norway, a new immigrant must want to be there.
                              2. The new immigrant should be highly encouraged to become a citizen. In this case, France first, Algeria second.
                              3. You can't dump too many people into a new country and expect them to assimilate rapidly and smoothly.
                              4. People need to immigrate as families, rather than as young, single males.
                              5. New immigrants must bring skills or money to the table. General labor is fine, if that is what is needed.

                              Yup good post.

                              +1

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