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  • JonJ Offline
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    This is analogous to what Roosevelt(?) did with the rural electrification program. The idea is that in less dense areas it isn’t economical for private actors to build the infrastructure so the government subsidizes it. US Mail traditionally did something similar by using uniform rates across the county. Basically high density areas subsidizing low density areas.

    It appeals to the liberal in me. I’m for it.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      I think it also does something else...I mentioned the Mississippi Delta. It's poor. Poorer than Appalachia. Because of that and because of job opportunities, land is dirt cheap if it's not prime farmland.

      Consider working remotely... 26 acres close to Oak Grove, a small Louisiana town of maybe 1500 people. I bet you can buy it for $80k...

      https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/13234-Highway-17_Oak-Grove_LA_71263_M74422-60011

      Now, what does an influx of money and people do to rural areas like this?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Of course, Sen. Tuberville voted against it.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          I think it also does something else...I mentioned the Mississippi Delta. It's poor. Poorer than Appalachia. Because of that and because of job opportunities, land is dirt cheap if it's not prime farmland.

          Consider working remotely... 26 acres close to Oak Grove, a small Louisiana town of maybe 1500 people. I bet you can buy it for $80k...

          https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/13234-Highway-17_Oak-Grove_LA_71263_M74422-60011

          Now, what does an influx of money and people do to rural areas like this?

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          @Jolly said in Broadband:

          Now, what does an influx of money and people do to rural areas like this?

          Make it more populous, less rural, possibly also more liberal?

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            Of course, Sen. Tuberville voted against it.

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            @Axtremus said in Broadband:

            Of course, Sen. Tuberville voted against it.

            Maybe it's because it was part of a bigger bill that had a crapload of pork in it?

            Nah, you wouldn't consider that, would you?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Axtremus said in Broadband:

              Of course, Sen. Tuberville voted against it.

              Maybe it's because it was part of a bigger bill that had a crapload of pork in it?

              Nah, you wouldn't consider that, would you?

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              @Jolly said in Broadband:

              @Axtremus said in Broadband:

              Of course, Sen. Tuberville voted against it.

              Maybe it's because it was part of a bigger bill that had a crapload of pork in it?

              Nah, you wouldn't consider that, would you?

              Sen. Tuberville certainly does not mention in his tweet why he voted agains it, or that he voted against it at all.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                #15

                Then why don't you take a look at the entire bill?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  https://www.newsweek.com/these-30-republicans-voted-against-infrastructure-bill-heres-what-it-would-give-their-states-1618521

                  Both senators from Alabama—Tommy Tuberville and Richard Shelby—voted against the infrastructure bill.

                  Based on the legislation's funding formula, Alabama would get more than $5.4 billion for highway and bridge upgrades.

                  According to the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) National Bridge Inventory report released in March, at least 620 bridges in the state are considered structurally deficient. Meanwhile, the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) estimates 11 percent of Alabama roads are in "poor" condition, costing each motorist an estimated $434 a year in repairs.

                  Additionally, the bill would provide for at least $405 million to improve public transportation in the state.

                  In a statement on his vote, Tuberville accused the negotiators of filling the bill with "giveaways to big cities and pet projects that have little to do with real infrastructure."

                  "I've travelled the state from top to bottom, and I know firsthand that Alabama, like many states across the country, needs a robust investment in real infrastructure," he said. "I've said all along I'd be for a bill that invests every penny of every dollar in improvements to our roads, bridges, waterways and rural broadband."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    #17

                    Broadband is vital for the success of our rural communities and for our entire economy.

                    Why?

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #18

                      Jobs

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        This is a good program. As Jolly says, good for jobs, and also good for schools/students.

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