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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Egged on by mom, 14-year-old boy killed man at Chicago restaurant: prosecutors


    Prosecutors on Thursday accused a Chicago woman of encouraging her 14-year-old son to shoot two people during an altercation at a fast food restaurant over the weekend, resulting in one man being killed.

    The boy did not shoot the second person. Now the mother and son are both charged with first-degree murder.

    “It is, in this court’s opinion, highly disturbing that the defendant would encourage her 14-year-old son to be armed with a firearm and fire shots at a victim on the streets of Chicago,” Judge Barbara Dawkins said during Carlishia Hood’s bail hearing on Thursday. She ordered Hood to pay a $300,000 bail deposit to be released on electronic monitoring.

    Assistant State’s Attorney Anne McCord told Dawkins that Hood, 35, stepped inside Maxwell Street Express, 11656 South Halsted, to order food late Sunday night.

    Her son remained in the car, and Hood, a concealed carry holder, left her firearm in the glove compartment, McCord said.

    While Hood stood at the order counter, 32-year-old Jeremy Brown arrived at the restaurant, and the two began arguing. They had never met before.

    Carlishia Hood (left) and surveillance images from restaurant surveillance video. | Chicago Police Department
    During the altercation, Hood texted her son outside and pointed at Brown, McCord said. A female customer laughed at the argument and egged Brown on.

    Moments later, Hood’s son entered the store with his hands in his hoodie pocket. McCord said the argument turned physical, with Brown punching Hood in the head at least three times near the pickup window.

    After the first punch, Hood’s son drew her firearm from his hoodie and shot Brown in the back, McCord alleged.

    Brown ran from the restaurant, with Hood’s son following. Hood ordered her son to shoot and kill Brown, McCord alleged. She said the boy continued firing at Brown, who died of his injuries.

    The entire event was recorded on high-definition video with audio. Chicago police released snippets of the video this week as they tried to identify the suspects.

    When the boy stopped shooting Brown, Hood pointed toward the female customer who laughed about the situation and instructed her son to shoot her, too, McCord said. Hood tried to wrestle her gun from her son when he didn’t go after the woman, but he maintained control of the weapon.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
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      #2

      Dare I mention culture?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #3

        You can dare.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #4

          Something every parent should read. If it's too long - and I think it is - just read the bolded part.

          “This is the final days of Patti's first pregnancy, and I receive a surprise visit from my father at my home in LA. Now, he'd driven 500 miles unannounced to knock on my door, that's his style. So at 11 a.m. we sit Sunday dining room, and we're nursing morning beers, that's his style.

          When, my dad, never a talkative man, right, blurted out, "You've been very good to us". And I nodded that, that I had, and he says, "And I wasn't very good to you". And, the room just…stood still. As to my shock, the unacknowledgeable was being acknowledged, if I, if I didn't know better I would've sworn an apology of some sort was being made, and it was.

          Here in the last days before I was to become a father, my own father was visiting me to warn me of the mistakes that he had made, and to warn me not to make them with my own children. To release them from the chain of our sins, my fathers of mine and our fathers before, that they may be free, to make their own choices and to live their own lives.

          We are ghosts or we are ancestors in our children's lives. We either lay our mistakes, our burdens upon them, and we haunt them, or we assist them in laying those old burdens down, and we free them from the chain of our own flawed behavior. And as ancestors, we walk alongside of them, and we assist them in finding their own way, and some transcendence.

          My father, on that day, was petitioning me, for an ancestral role in my life after being a ghost for a long long time. He wanted me to write a new end to our relationship, and he wanted me to be ready for the new beginning that I was about to experience.
          It was the greatest moment in my life with my dad, and it was all that I needed.” - Bruce Springsteen

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            Good people want their children to do better than they did. Bad people don't care if their children do worse.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              Charges dropped.

              A Chicago woman who was arrested for murder after allegedly ordering her 14-year-old son to shoot a man dead in a fast-food eatery was freed Monday after prosecutors dropped the charges against her and the teen.

              Carlishia Hood, 35, and her son had both been charged with first-degree murder last week for the June 18 shooting death of Jeremy Brown, 32, at the hot dog joint Maxwell Street Express, CBS Chicago reported.

              Hood and Brown had gotten into an argument while waiting for food and the mother allegedly texted her son, who was waiting in the car, to come help her.

              The young teen has been accused of gunning down the man with his mother’s firearm at her order.

              However, new evidence came to light over the weekend that made the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office reconsider the charges.

              A previously unreleased video of Brown brutally pummeling Hood in the head inside the restaurant began circulating on social media.

              “Based upon our continued review and in light of emerging evidence, today the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office has moved to dismiss the charges against Carlisha Hood and her 14-year-old son,” the office said in a statement Monday. “Based upon the facts, evidence, and the law we are unable to meet our burden of proof in the prosecution of these cases.”

              Both Hood, who was being held on $3 million bond, and her son, who was being held without bail in a juvenile detention center, were released Monday after the charges were dropped.

              From the RWEC:

              We should first note that Jeremy Brown was not a blameless innocent bystander in all of this. He reportedly engaged fully in the argument. A video captured by a customer shows him repeatedly punching Ms. Hood in the head. So in that regard, she was entitled to act in self-defense. That’s the claim that prosecutors are making in justifying the release of both mother and son.

              But the subsequent actions by both of them leave self-defense claims in the dust. It is perhaps excusable that the son shot Brown after entering the eatery and seeing him beating on his mother. But at that point, Brown fled the building. All Ms. Hood need to do next was call the police. Brown would obviously have shown up at a hospital sooner or later and they could have taken him into custody if appropriate.

              Instead, Carlishia Hood “ordered” her son to pursue Brown outside and keep shooting. He complied. To make matters worse, the mother then ordered her son to shoot another woman who had been inside and had reportedly been laughing at the spectacle of Hood and Brown fighting. Fortunately, the boy did not carry out the second order to shoot. They both then got in her car and left.

              The scene inside the restaurant was self-defense. The scene outside was cold-blooded murder.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JonJ Offline
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                Jon
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                #7

                Two things:

                1). Her name is hood. Heh

                2). Chasing him down the street to put a few more rounds in his back ain’t self defense

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                • JonJ Offline
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                  Jon
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Easiest thought experiment ever:

                  White kid with white mom’s gun, black victim.

                  Does the Chicago DA drop charges?

                  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABAHA

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/carlishia-hood-lawsuit-wrongful-arrest-murder-jeremy-brown/

                    A woman is suing the city of Chicago and several police officers, after she and her teenage son were arrested in a deadly shooting, only to have the murder charges dropped days later.

                    Carlishia Hood, 35, and her 14-year-old son had been charged with first-degree murder in the slaying of 32-year-old Jeremy Brown on June 18 at the Maxwell Street Express located in the 11600 block of South Halsted Street. Hood, who was a valid FOID card and concealed carry license holder at the time of the incident, was also charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

                    All charges against both Hood and her son were dropped on Monday, and they were released from custody.

                    On Tuesday, Hood filed a lawsuit in Cook County Circuit Court against the city of Chicago and the officers who arrested her, accusing them of malicious prosecution, false arrest, and intentional infliction of emotional distress.

                    "My life changed. My son's life changed. I've experienced pain in many ways that I would never have thought," Hood said of their arrest. "What happened to me was totally unnecessary. Never in a million years would I have imagined being brutally attacked, beaten, and being arrested."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JonJ Jon

                      Two things:

                      1). Her name is hood. Heh

                      2). Chasing him down the street to put a few more rounds in his back ain’t self defense

                      89th8 Offline
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                      89th
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                      @Jon said in Parental supervision and guidance:

                      Two things:

                      1). Her name is hood. Heh

                      2). Chasing him down the street to put a few more rounds in his back ain’t self defense

                      Those were my thoughts as well, both points LOL. BTW I saw the original video on reddit a few days ago (of Brown and Hood fighting, not the son) and it was certainly within reason for the son to defend the mom after Brown attacked her inside the restaurant. How strange the woman seems to be a good person (church, volunteer, etc) but her "hood rat" personality came out when she started telling her son to finish killing Brown and kill the lady laughing.

                      That being said, these two people are perfect examples of what happens if you carry a gun and are an idiot... you first think to use the gun instead of thinking of other ways to deconflict. Heck, even the son probably could've taken on the man in a fight, but instead they thought "hey we have a gun, let's use it!'

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        Once you followed the man into the street, it's no longer self-defense. Period.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          Once you followed the man into the street, it's no longer self-defense. Period.

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          @Jolly said in Parental supervision and guidance:

                          Once you followed the man into the street, and shoot him in the back - twice, it's no longer self-defense. Period.

                          More complete analysis.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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