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I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.

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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

    Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

    I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

    I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

    His campaign messaging platform strategy is interesting, too. He'll be in places people who vote will listen, but not the "media" as we define it.

    C'mon you crazy bastard don't fuck this up!

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

    @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

    Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

    I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

    I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

    That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

      @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

      Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

      I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

      I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

      That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"

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      Aqua Letifer
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

      @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

      Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

      I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

      I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

      That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"

      In Australia, it goes more along the lines of, "It was just one Maccas!"

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @Doctor-Phibes said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

        @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

        Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

        I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

        I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

        That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"

        In Australia, it goes more along the lines of, "It was just one Maccas!"

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        @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

        In Australia, it goes more along the lines of, "It was just one Maccas!"

        That's presumably because in Australia it's never just one sheep.

        I was only joking

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          xenon
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          #20

          I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.

          He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.

          I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.

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            I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.

            He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.

            I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.

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            George K
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            @xenon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

            he’s supposed to be a loony toon.

            Stuff in the water is making people trans-gender.

            Thimerosol causes autism.

            There are bioweapons that only target certain races.

            The 2004 presidential election was stolen

            CIA killed his uncle

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              I'll give him 2/5.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                #23

                I haven’t heard him talk about most of those. My point was not that I think he’s right - but he spoke with enough detail about his claims that if they’re obviously wrong, someone sufficiently diligent should be able to debunk them.

                Normally I wouldn’t recommend debunking internet kooks - but if he’s polling as the #2 democrat, there’s lots of incentive for journalists to do it.

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                • X xenon

                  I haven’t heard him talk about most of those. My point was not that I think he’s right - but he spoke with enough detail about his claims that if they’re obviously wrong, someone sufficiently diligent should be able to debunk them.

                  Normally I wouldn’t recommend debunking internet kooks - but if he’s polling as the #2 democrat, there’s lots of incentive for journalists to do it.

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                  George K
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                  @xenon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                  there’s lots of incentive for journalists to do it.

                  You said "journalists," not transcribers, and that explains it all, doesn't it?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    He’s a believer in ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. Because of course he is.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      I'll give him 2/5.

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                      Renauda
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                      @Jolly

                      I'll give him 2/5

                      I give him 0.5/5. Some of his views on water conservation and management are valid. The rest…a nutter.

                      Elbows up!

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        I'm thinking of signing up as a democrat just to vote for him in the primaries.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          What’s the over/under on he lives to the election? I can’t help but think some other nutter would be too tempted by the chance to kill another Kennedy.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • X xenon

                            I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.

                            He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.

                            I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @xenon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                            I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.

                            He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.

                            I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.

                            The real difference is that he's articulate. Alex Jones is a crass buffoon. RFK sounds as though he knows what he's talking about, but he's actually talking bollocks a lot of the time.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @xenon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                              I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.

                              He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.

                              I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.

                              The real difference is that he's articulate. Alex Jones is a crass buffoon. RFK sounds as though he knows what he's talking about, but he's actually talking bollocks a lot of the time.

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                              George K
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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                              RFK sounds as though he knows what he's talking about, but he's actually talking bollocks a lot of the time.

                              If you can't blind them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Mik
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                                  #32

                                  He’s only benching maybe 110 including the bar. I used to do 230.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Not at his age you didn’t.

                                    He’s in good shape for sure.

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                                      George K
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                                      Adonis.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
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                                        Ok, he's in pretty good shape. But I gotta tell you, that's pretty Putinesque.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Horace
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                                          That body is difficult to achieve at his age without pharmaceutical help.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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