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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Horace said in Disney is Floundering:

    It was my understanding that there would be a comment about “floundering”.

    I took it to be a punny usage, so LD gets a pass.

    This time.

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    LuFins Dad
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    @Aqua-Letifer said in Disney is Floundering:

    @Horace said in Disney is Floundering:

    It was my understanding that there would be a comment about “floundering”.

    I took it to be a punny usage, so LD gets a pass.

    This time.

    Yeah… It was a pun… :shiftyeyes:

    The Brad

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    • JonJ Jon

      They should just fire every writer, producer, and director who has pronouns in his or her email signature. Problem will be solved in six months.

      MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
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      #11

      @Jon said in Disney is Floundering:

      They should just fire every writer, producer, and director who has pronouns in his or her email signature. Problem will be solved in six months.

      Yup

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        @Jon said in Disney is Floundering:

        They should just fire every writer, producer, and director who has pronouns in his or her email signature. Problem will be solved in six months.

        Yup

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        Aqua Letifer
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        #12

        @Mik said in Disney is Floundering:

        @Jon said in Disney is Floundering:

        They should just fire every writer, producer, and director who has pronouns in his or her email signature. Problem will be solved in six months.

        Yup

        That applies basically everywhere. But more of that bullshit keeps cropping up.

        I haven't yet been forced to provide this, but if that day ever comes, it's going to be "þu/þin".

        Please love yourself.

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          Jolly
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          #13

          So...the middle finger to DeSantis about discontinuing construction projects is probably absolute bullshit.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            So...the middle finger to DeSantis about discontinuing construction projects is probably absolute bullshit.

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            LuFins Dad
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            #14

            @Jolly said in Disney is Floundering:

            So...the middle finger to DeSantis about discontinuing construction projects is probably absolute bullshit.

            There was never any question about that. The office park was m any to be see for a division that they laid off in February, and a division in California that was refusing to move. They were signaling that the office project was going to be called off last November… But News needs to news…

            The Brad

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Mik said in Disney is Floundering:

              @Jon said in Disney is Floundering:

              They should just fire every writer, producer, and director who has pronouns in his or her email signature. Problem will be solved in six months.

              Yup

              That applies basically everywhere. But more of that bullshit keeps cropping up.

              I haven't yet been forced to provide this, but if that day ever comes, it's going to be "þu/þin".

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              Jon
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Disney is Floundering:

              @Mik said in Disney is Floundering:

              @Jon said in Disney is Floundering:

              They should just fire every writer, producer, and director who has pronouns in his or her email signature. Problem will be solved in six months.

              Yup

              That applies basically everywhere. But more of that bullshit keeps cropping up.

              I haven't yet been forced to provide this, but if that day ever comes, it's going to be "þu/þin".

              If I worked retail i’d get a little button that says: “Infer them from my appearance”

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                Axtremus
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                Elemental is very well done. Sure, many laws of physics are violated (same can be said for Super Mario Bros.), but it's a very good film with very good storytelling. In terms of storytelling and production finesse, Elemental is at least as good as (and I would say much better than) Super Mario Bros. The Elemental has more emotional depth for sure.

                What the Elemental did not have going in was name recognition. Elemental is original, a brand new creation. Super Mario Bros. has decades of name recognition and fandom built up over multiple generations of audience before opening day.

                No, it has nothing to do with gender, on or off the screen. More to do with name recognition.

                Another big factor is streaming. If you're a Disney+ subscriber, you know for sure you will get to stream Elemental if you just wait a little bit. There is no comparable expectation for streaming Super Mario Bros.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Elemental is very well done. Sure, many laws of physics are violated (same can be said for Super Mario Bros.), but it's a very good film with very good storytelling. In terms of storytelling and production finesse, Elemental is at least as good as (and I would say much better than) Super Mario Bros. The Elemental has more emotional depth for sure.

                  What the Elemental did not have going in was name recognition. Elemental is original, a brand new creation. Super Mario Bros. has decades of name recognition and fandom built up over multiple generations of audience before opening day.

                  No, it has nothing to do with gender, on or off the screen. More to do with name recognition.

                  Another big factor is streaming. If you're a Disney+ subscriber, you know for sure you will get to stream Elemental if you just wait a little bit. There is no comparable expectation for streaming Super Mario Bros.

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @Axtremus said in Disney is Floundering:

                  Elemental is very well done. Sure, many laws of physics are violated (same can be said for Super Mario Bros.), but it's a very good film with very good storytelling. In terms of storytelling and production finesse, Elemental is at least as good as (and I would say much better than) Super Mario Bros. The Elemental has more emotional depth for sure.

                  What the Elemental did not have going in was name recognition. Elemental is original, a brand new creation. Super Mario Bros. has decades of name recognition and fandom built up over multiple generations of audience before opening day.

                  No, it has nothing to do with gender, on or off the screen. More to do with name recognition.

                  Another big factor is streaming. If you're a Disney+ subscriber, you know for sure you will get to stream Elemental if you just wait a little bit. There is no comparable expectation for streaming Super Mario Bros.

                  How much do you know about Disney's process, Ax?

                  Please love yourself.

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                    As for The Flash, it just continues the trend of DCEU films performing poorly in the box office in recent years. The Marvel movies have more hits than duds, the DC movies have more (a lot more) duds than hits.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      Elemental is very well done. Sure, many laws of physics are violated (same can be said for Super Mario Bros.), but it's a very good film with very good storytelling. In terms of storytelling and production finesse, Elemental is at least as good as (and I would say much better than) Super Mario Bros. The Elemental has more emotional depth for sure.

                      What the Elemental did not have going in was name recognition. Elemental is original, a brand new creation. Super Mario Bros. has decades of name recognition and fandom built up over multiple generations of audience before opening day.

                      No, it has nothing to do with gender, on or off the screen. More to do with name recognition.

                      Another big factor is streaming. If you're a Disney+ subscriber, you know for sure you will get to stream Elemental if you just wait a little bit. There is no comparable expectation for streaming Super Mario Bros.

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                      @Axtremus said in Disney is Floundering:

                      What the Elemental did not have going in was name recognition. Elemental is original, a brand new creation. Super Mario Bros. has decades of name recognition and fandom built up over multiple generations of audience before opening day.

                      No, it has nothing to do with gender, on or off the screen. More to do with name recognition.

                      Another big factor is streaming. If you're a Disney+ subscriber, you know for sure you will get to stream Elemental if you just wait a little bit. There is no comparable expectation for streaming Super Mario Bros.

                      1. Name recognition? It’s frigging Disney/Pixar. That’s as much name recognition that you could want. Toy Story had no name recognition until it did. Same with Cars, Monsters Inc, The Incredibles, etc.. By 2010, new content was knocking it out of the park simply because it was Pixar. Then came The Wokening. Whether this movie contains a lot of The Wokening, that is the content that the consumer has come to associate with recent Pixar releases. 5 years ago this film would have opened up to +$100M because it was Pixar…

                      2. Perhaps it doesn’t have much of The Woke in it, but there was a LOT made of Non-Binary character in Social Media a year ago or so, and cast members have continually talked about it. Disney caught on last fall that maybe marketing it wasn’t the best idea, but it was already out there.

                      3. Super Mario Bros had a marketing spend of $80M. Estimates for Elemental were between $100-$120M.

                      4. Streaming? Are you kidding? Most people know that Super Mario Bros would be streaming on Paramount+. That’s some weak sauce, right there…

                      The Brad

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                      • JonJ Jon

                        They should just fire every writer, producer, and director who has pronouns in his or her email signature. Problem will be solved in six months.

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                        @Jon said in Disney is Floundering:

                        They should just fire every writer, producer, and director who has pronouns in his or her email signature. Problem will be solved in six months.

                        Not a content creator but possibly a start..

                        https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/disneys-chief-diversity-officer-latondra-newton-exits-1235650198/

                        The Brad

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                          DIE officer being shown the door is a good start...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Axtremus said in Disney is Floundering:

                            Elemental is very well done. Sure, many laws of physics are violated (same can be said for Super Mario Bros.), but it's a very good film with very good storytelling. In terms of storytelling and production finesse, Elemental is at least as good as (and I would say much better than) Super Mario Bros. The Elemental has more emotional depth for sure.

                            What the Elemental did not have going in was name recognition. Elemental is original, a brand new creation. Super Mario Bros. has decades of name recognition and fandom built up over multiple generations of audience before opening day.

                            No, it has nothing to do with gender, on or off the screen. More to do with name recognition.

                            Another big factor is streaming. If you're a Disney+ subscriber, you know for sure you will get to stream Elemental if you just wait a little bit. There is no comparable expectation for streaming Super Mario Bros.

                            How much do you know about Disney's process, Ax?

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Disney is Floundering:

                            @Axtremus said in Disney is Floundering:

                            Elemental is very well done. Sure, many laws of physics are violated (same can be said for Super Mario Bros.), but it's a very good film with very good storytelling. In terms of storytelling and production finesse, Elemental is at least as good as (and I would say much better than) Super Mario Bros. The Elemental has more emotional depth for sure.

                            What the Elemental did not have going in was name recognition. Elemental is original, a brand new creation. Super Mario Bros. has decades of name recognition and fandom built up over multiple generations of audience before opening day.

                            No, it has nothing to do with gender, on or off the screen. More to do with name recognition.

                            Another big factor is streaming. If you're a Disney+ subscriber, you know for sure you will get to stream Elemental if you just wait a little bit. There is no comparable expectation for streaming Super Mario Bros.

                            How much do you know about Disney's process, Ax?

                            Bump for @Axtremus

                            Please love yourself.

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              Chapek: I dropped Disney’s stock value 27% over 2 years.

                              Iger: “Hold my beer”

                              The Brad

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                                Disney stock is now back to roughly it's 2014 value.

                                How far will this time machine go?

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  I wonder if the character will be a mandalorian?

                                  The Brad

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    Maybe it will have a light dilator…

                                    The Brad

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      Stock downgraded - https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/disney-stock-downgraded-streaming-theme-park-growth-fears

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        Maybe it will have a light dilator…

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        4th of July is typically one of their busiest days…

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                                        Link to video

                                        The Brad

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                                          That looked pretty busy by the end of the day - I can't believe the low turnout at the beginning was caused by wokeness, it doesn't really make sense.

                                          I was only joking

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