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    Klaus
    wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 17:54 last edited by
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    This is the lovely German name of the goddamn bug that ruined my weekend. What. A. Fucking. Nightmare.

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      Catseye3
      wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 18:12 last edited by
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      Sorry to hear. Was the damage to your trees or to yourself/family?

      Here's a Google Images page of pix of this ugly thing. https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk02exB6Sdd92z0nL1HeDS3DHOaBB8A:1593367779130&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=Oak+processionary+spinner&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiLuOLDjaXqAhUglHIEHePiCnIQiR56BAgTEBA&biw=1366&bih=625

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        Klaus
        wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 18:28 last edited by Klaus
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        My daughter and I were affected while cycling.

        Now we know in great detail what Lepidopterism/caterpillar dermatitis is. It is hell.

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 18:34 last edited by Catseye3
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          Here's what NIH says: "Treatment: Under a local therapy with a medium potent corticosteroid cream and a non-sedating orally administered antihistamine, all skin lesions as well as itching disappeared within 1 week. All skin lesions healed without scars." Which you probably know by now.

          Here's what the thing looks like. Big EW.

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          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • C Catseye3
            28 Jun 2020, 18:34

            Here's what NIH says: "Treatment: Under a local therapy with a medium potent corticosteroid cream and a non-sedating orally administered antihistamine, all skin lesions as well as itching disappeared within 1 week. All skin lesions healed without scars." Which you probably know by now.

            Here's what the thing looks like. Big EW.

            15cb6b94-1d98-4685-b8b8-b3a3b03405c0-image.png

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            Klaus
            wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 18:40 last edited by
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            @Catseye3 said in Eichenprozessionsspinner:

            medium potent corticosteroid cream and a non-sedating orally administered antihistamine

            It's still hell even with loads of corticosteroids and antihistaminika. I'm considering voluntary artificial coma for the next three weeks. 😖

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              Horace
              wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 18:42 last edited by
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              I keep warning people against leaving the house for any reason ever. There is no margin in it. Do not be fooled by the people who want to convince you to join the mob insanity of getting out of the house and doing stuff. Nothing good comes of it. Sorry you're going through that Klaus.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Catseye3
                wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 18:49 last edited by Catseye3
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                Can't find any alternative treatment. Getting lots of notes about what you're already doing like, "but these may not always be effective". Yeah, no kidding.

                A couple of years ago I got caught by something I think was chiggers, but I've never been sure. It was as you say the purest hell, so I know something about what y'all are going through. I didn't know about antihistamine, so I suffered it without any kind of aid. I nearly went mad.

                But I found that ICE provided some relief. You might try that.

                This thing that got me, I redd on the Net about a guy who had it on his arms; he poked the lesions open with an ice pick and poured gasoline in them. That's how crazy it makes you.

                Not that I'd ever do such a thing, but I actually entertained the idea for a second or two.

                Good luck. Try the ice.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 18:57 last edited by
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                  Thanks for the suggestion. I'm off to get some gasoline.

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 18:58 last edited by
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                    No-o-o-o! Try the ice first!

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      mark
                      wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 19:10 last edited by
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                      OMG!

                      How did this happen exactly? Were they falling out of the trees or something?

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                        28 Jun 2020, 19:10

                        OMG!

                        How did this happen exactly? Were they falling out of the trees or something?

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                        Klaus
                        wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 19:39 last edited by
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                        @mark said in Eichenprozessionsspinner:

                        OMG!

                        How did this happen exactly? Were they falling out of the trees or something?

                        No. These caterpillars have hairs that contain some kind of poison. These hairs are in the air everywhere within 100m around affected trees. All I did (with my daughter) was cycling near affected trees. I didn't see any of the actual caterpillars. Also, these friggin' hairs stay in the area for up to a year after the caterpillars are gone.

                        My skin on the legs looks very similar to this. Everywhere.

                        Luckily my daughter isn't as affected since she only joined me for a part of the tour.

                        I hope these motherfuckers haven't migrated to the US yet.

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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 19:43 last edited by
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                          I can't remember, Klaus: Is this your first summer in your new house? (I'm thinking it's your second . . . ?) Are the trees on your property?

                          You see where I'm going. 1564fdd8-fc73-4c4b-899d-b5099e61871f-image.png

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            Klaus
                            wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 19:52 last edited by
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                            No, I was visiting my parents over the weekend and it happened there.

                            You can't solve this issue by cutting specific trees. These guys have infested a significant percentage of the overall oak population in all of Germany (and other parts of Europe). We are talking about millions of trees. There's nothing that really helps. It's possible to reduce the population locally, with great effort and costs (say, near a kindergarten), but not country-wide. The most promising approach seems to be to make sure their enemies, such as woodpeckers, are plentiful. But that will take many years. The best we can hope for is a really deep winter.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 20:06 last edited by
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                              Fucking hell.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                Loki
                                wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 20:12 last edited by Loki
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                                Sorry Klaus that sounds excruciating.

                                Lord of the Woodpeckers, Protector of the Realm might be something to start planning for.

                                I’d call Brenda to run an exploratory committee for you, she could likely divine whether the woodpeckers would come out for you.

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                                • K Klaus
                                  28 Jun 2020, 19:39

                                  @mark said in Eichenprozessionsspinner:

                                  OMG!

                                  How did this happen exactly? Were they falling out of the trees or something?

                                  No. These caterpillars have hairs that contain some kind of poison. These hairs are in the air everywhere within 100m around affected trees. All I did (with my daughter) was cycling near affected trees. I didn't see any of the actual caterpillars. Also, these friggin' hairs stay in the area for up to a year after the caterpillars are gone.

                                  My skin on the legs looks very similar to this. Everywhere.

                                  Luckily my daughter isn't as affected since she only joined me for a part of the tour.

                                  I hope these motherfuckers haven't migrated to the US yet.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 20:14 last edited by
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                                  @Klaus said in Eichenprozessionsspinner:

                                  I hope these motherfuckers haven't migrated to the US yet.

                                  Maybe this is what 2020 plans for August?

                                  Srsly tho, sorry to hear. What an uncontrollable nightmare.

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                                  • K Klaus
                                    28 Jun 2020, 19:39

                                    @mark said in Eichenprozessionsspinner:

                                    OMG!

                                    How did this happen exactly? Were they falling out of the trees or something?

                                    No. These caterpillars have hairs that contain some kind of poison. These hairs are in the air everywhere within 100m around affected trees. All I did (with my daughter) was cycling near affected trees. I didn't see any of the actual caterpillars. Also, these friggin' hairs stay in the area for up to a year after the caterpillars are gone.

                                    My skin on the legs looks very similar to this. Everywhere.

                                    Luckily my daughter isn't as affected since she only joined me for a part of the tour.

                                    I hope these motherfuckers haven't migrated to the US yet.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 20:53 last edited by
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                                    @Klaus said in Eichenprozessionsspinner:

                                    @mark said in Eichenprozessionsspinner:

                                    OMG!

                                    How did this happen exactly? Were they falling out of the trees or something?

                                    No. These caterpillars have hairs that contain some kind of poison. These hairs are in the air everywhere within 100m around affected trees. All I did (with my daughter) was cycling near affected trees. I didn't see any of the actual caterpillars. Also, these friggin' hairs stay in the area for up to a year after the caterpillars are gone.

                                    Cripes! I'd be worried about inhalation, then... Can these things cause anaphylaxis?

                                    The Brad

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 21:00 last edited by
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                                      Wow. That's horrible.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        28 Jun 2020, 19:43

                                        I can't remember, Klaus: Is this your first summer in your new house? (I'm thinking it's your second . . . ?) Are the trees on your property?

                                        You see where I'm going. 1564fdd8-fc73-4c4b-899d-b5099e61871f-image.png

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 28 Jun 2020, 23:04 last edited by
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                                        @Catseye3 said in Eichenprozessionsspinner:

                                        I can't remember, Klaus: Is this your first summer in your new house? (I'm thinking it's your second . . . ?) Are the trees on your property?

                                        You see where I'm going. 1564fdd8-fc73-4c4b-899d-b5099e61871f-image.png

                                        Those are ok, but this is a saw....

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 13:18 last edited by
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                                          wow @Klaus I hope that you and your daughter get better soon!!

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