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About that Canadian Smoke,,,

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    We are having a ❌ CODE RED❌ day!

    We are being told that we should absolutely stay in doors. Only go outdoors if absolutely necessary, and no strenuous outdoor activity! If you must drive somewhere, use the cabin recirculating system!

    At the end of the article, we are told that spending the day outside would be equivalent to smoking SIX ENTIRE CIGARETTES over 20 hours! The horror!

    So I’m going to the pool and then going fishing. I hope ya’ll have a good day!

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    @LuFins-Dad

    The area of Queens where my gf's school is hit 322 today. Not sure what that equates to in cigarettes per day.

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      @LuFins-Dad

      The area of Queens where my gf's school is hit 322 today. Not sure what that equates to in cigarettes per day.

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      @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

      @LuFins-Dad

      The area of Queens where my gf's school is hit 322 today. Not sure what that equates to in cigarettes per day.

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      No question, you guys are getting hit FAR worse. I’d break out the N95s for indoor…

      The Brad

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        I was out for a short trip (around 10~12 miles round trip). I did set the car to recirculate the air in cabin, and for the few brief moments I stepped outside, I wore N95.

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          According to a note from our superintendent my town hit 413 today.

          The scale goes to 500

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          • JonJ Jon

            According to a note from our superintendent my town hit 413 today.

            The scale goes to 500

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            @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

            According to a note from our superintendent my town hit 413 today.

            The scale goes to 500

            That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

            The Brad

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              Blame Canada!

              Link to video

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                According to a note from our superintendent my town hit 413 today.

                The scale goes to 500

                That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

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                @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

                What are the long-term health risks of one pack of cigarettes over a lifetime?

                I don't know... just wondering.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                  That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

                  What are the long-term health risks of one pack of cigarettes over a lifetime?

                  I don't know... just wondering.

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                  @George-K said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                  That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

                  What are the long-term health risks of one pack of cigarettes over a lifetime?

                  I don't know... just wondering.

                  Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                  But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                  Also I bet the AQI was probably devised with more chronic air problems in mind. I imagine areas that average 100 have higher respiratory related morbidity and mortality than areas that average 40.

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                    It’s worse here today than yesterday, anecdotally speaking. More fog and you can smell that it’s woodsmoke. Feels about what Pittsburgh was like in the 80’s, though the woodsmoke isn’t as bad a stink as the coal/coke from the mills.

                    The Brad

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                      Still nowhere near as bad as NY Yesterday or Cleveland in the 70s….

                      The Brad

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                        @George-K said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                        That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

                        What are the long-term health risks of one pack of cigarettes over a lifetime?

                        I don't know... just wondering.

                        Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                        But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                        Also I bet the AQI was probably devised with more chronic air problems in mind. I imagine areas that average 100 have higher respiratory related morbidity and mortality than areas that average 40.

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                        @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                        Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                        Yup. The health dangers from one pack of smokes are negligible. However, as you point out the irritant effect of inhaling the smoke can precipitate an asthmatic attack or worse. Remember how you coughed your lungs out the first time you had a smoke? I do.

                        But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                        Again, you're right. I'm not discounting the irritant effects at all. I'm sure they're horrible, and wouldn't want to endure them. But all I hear from the "news" is how bad it is because it's like smoking a pack of cigarettes.

                        Cigarettes are nasty, vile things (gawd, how I miss them), but the irritant effects of this disaster are what should be stressed.

                        I wonder how effective the (K)N95 masks are in terms of preventing irritation. Certainly, nothing for the eyes, but in terms of inhaled particulates, do they work?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Can we take a minute to discuss the fact that Code Red isn’t the worst level on their chart? I mean, isn’t that the whole gist of Code Red? Worst possible scenario with the bright primary color screaming danger? Code Maroon doesn’t carry the same urgency…

                          The Brad

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                            Green
                            Yellow
                            Red
                            Angry Red
                            Deadly Red

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                              It sounds like something from a Mel Brooks movie.. “Oh no! The alarm is going off! Is it a Code Red?!” “It’s worse… It’s a Code PURPLE!” Cue music and zoom camera in to horrified faces….

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                It sounds like something from a Mel Brooks movie.. “Oh no! The alarm is going off! Is it a Code Red?!” “It’s worse… It’s a Code PURPLE!” Cue music and zoom camera in to horrified faces….

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                It sounds like something from a Mel Brooks movie.. “Oh no! The alarm is going off! Is it a Code Red?!” “It’s worse… It’s a Code PURPLE!” Cue music and zoom camera in to horrified faces….

                                Before you know it, it'll go plaid.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                  Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                                  Yup. The health dangers from one pack of smokes are negligible. However, as you point out the irritant effect of inhaling the smoke can precipitate an asthmatic attack or worse. Remember how you coughed your lungs out the first time you had a smoke? I do.

                                  But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                                  Again, you're right. I'm not discounting the irritant effects at all. I'm sure they're horrible, and wouldn't want to endure them. But all I hear from the "news" is how bad it is because it's like smoking a pack of cigarettes.

                                  Cigarettes are nasty, vile things (gawd, how I miss them), but the irritant effects of this disaster are what should be stressed.

                                  I wonder how effective the (K)N95 masks are in terms of preventing irritation. Certainly, nothing for the eyes, but in terms of inhaled particulates, do they work?

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                                  @George-K said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                  @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                  Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                                  Yup. The health dangers from one pack of smokes are negligible. However, as you point out the irritant effect of inhaling the smoke can precipitate an asthmatic attack or worse. Remember how you coughed your lungs out the first time you had a smoke? I do.

                                  But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                                  Again, you're right. I'm not discounting the irritant effects at all. I'm sure they're horrible, and wouldn't want to endure them. But all I hear from the "news" is how bad it is because it's like smoking a pack of cigarettes.

                                  Cigarettes are nasty, vile things (gawd, how I miss them), but the irritant effects of this disaster are what should be stressed.

                                  I wonder how effective the (K)N95 masks are in terms of preventing irritation. Certainly, nothing for the eyes, but in terms of inhaled particulates, do they work?

                                  I assume they’re quite effective for small particles. Think of drywall guys or ceramic cutters or sawmill employees. They all wear construction grade n95s or even respirators.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Can we take a minute to discuss the fact that Code Red isn’t the worst level on their chart? I mean, isn’t that the whole gist of Code Red? Worst possible scenario with the bright primary color screaming danger? Code Maroon doesn’t carry the same urgency…

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                    Can we take a minute to discuss the fact that Code Red isn’t the worst level on their chart? I mean, isn’t that the whole gist of Code Red? Worst possible scenario with the bright primary color screaming danger? Code Maroon doesn’t carry the same urgency…

                                    Yeah but again this was designed with chronic pollution in mind. You want a city in the 150-200 range to consider itself in the red zone.

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                                      The record daily average for San Francisco when the fires were at their worst (2018) was 178.

                                      The daily average in NYC yesterday was 377.

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                                        This is a good time to sneak a few smokes while they are cleaner than the free air.

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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