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About that Canadian Smoke,,,

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 16:28 last edited by LuFins Dad 6 Jul 2023, 16:28
    #6

    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/the-dc-area-could-see-dangerous-air-quality-on-wednesday-heres-why-and-how-to-stay-safe/3361903/

    exposed to wildfire smoke causing AQI of 150 for several days is equivalent to about seven cigarettes a day if someone were outside the whole time."

    The Brad

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      George K
      wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 19:59 last edited by
      #7

      "The sequel to 'Dune' looks amazing."

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Jon
        wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 22:28 last edited by
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        You can't even see Chris Christie sitting out there.

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        • L LuFins Dad
          7 Jun 2023, 16:23

          We are having a ❌ CODE RED❌ day!

          We are being told that we should absolutely stay in doors. Only go outdoors if absolutely necessary, and no strenuous outdoor activity! If you must drive somewhere, use the cabin recirculating system!

          At the end of the article, we are told that spending the day outside would be equivalent to smoking SIX ENTIRE CIGARETTES over 20 hours! The horror!

          So I’m going to the pool and then going fishing. I hope ya’ll have a good day!

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          Jon
          wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 23:19 last edited by Jon 6 Jul 2023, 23:20
          #9

          @LuFins-Dad

          The area of Queens where my gf's school is hit 322 today. Not sure what that equates to in cigarettes per day.

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          • J Jon
            7 Jun 2023, 23:19

            @LuFins-Dad

            The area of Queens where my gf's school is hit 322 today. Not sure what that equates to in cigarettes per day.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 23:42 last edited by
            #10

            @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

            @LuFins-Dad

            The area of Queens where my gf's school is hit 322 today. Not sure what that equates to in cigarettes per day.

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            No question, you guys are getting hit FAR worse. I’d break out the N95s for indoor…

            The Brad

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 00:53 last edited by
              #11

              I was out for a short trip (around 10~12 miles round trip). I did set the car to recirculate the air in cabin, and for the few brief moments I stepped outside, I wore N95.

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                Jon
                wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 01:04 last edited by
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                According to a note from our superintendent my town hit 413 today.

                The scale goes to 500

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                • J Jon
                  8 Jun 2023, 01:04

                  According to a note from our superintendent my town hit 413 today.

                  The scale goes to 500

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 02:03 last edited by
                  #13

                  @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                  According to a note from our superintendent my town hit 413 today.

                  The scale goes to 500

                  That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

                  The Brad

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 02:09 last edited by
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                    Blame Canada!

                    Link to video

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      8 Jun 2023, 02:03

                      @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                      According to a note from our superintendent my town hit 413 today.

                      The scale goes to 500

                      That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 02:12 last edited by
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                      That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

                      What are the long-term health risks of one pack of cigarettes over a lifetime?

                      I don't know... just wondering.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        8 Jun 2023, 02:12

                        @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                        That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

                        What are the long-term health risks of one pack of cigarettes over a lifetime?

                        I don't know... just wondering.

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                        Jon
                        wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 11:38 last edited by Jon 6 Aug 2023, 11:39
                        #16

                        @George-K said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                        That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

                        What are the long-term health risks of one pack of cigarettes over a lifetime?

                        I don't know... just wondering.

                        Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                        But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                        Also I bet the AQI was probably devised with more chronic air problems in mind. I imagine areas that average 100 have higher respiratory related morbidity and mortality than areas that average 40.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 11:56 last edited by
                          #17

                          It’s worse here today than yesterday, anecdotally speaking. More fog and you can smell that it’s woodsmoke. Feels about what Pittsburgh was like in the 80’s, though the woodsmoke isn’t as bad a stink as the coal/coke from the mills.

                          The Brad

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 11:57 last edited by
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                            Still nowhere near as bad as NY Yesterday or Cleveland in the 70s….

                            The Brad

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                              8 Jun 2023, 11:38

                              @George-K said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                              That’s a pack… If exposed for 24 hours.

                              What are the long-term health risks of one pack of cigarettes over a lifetime?

                              I don't know... just wondering.

                              Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                              But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                              Also I bet the AQI was probably devised with more chronic air problems in mind. I imagine areas that average 100 have higher respiratory related morbidity and mortality than areas that average 40.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 12:08 last edited by
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                              @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                              Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                              Yup. The health dangers from one pack of smokes are negligible. However, as you point out the irritant effect of inhaling the smoke can precipitate an asthmatic attack or worse. Remember how you coughed your lungs out the first time you had a smoke? I do.

                              But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                              Again, you're right. I'm not discounting the irritant effects at all. I'm sure they're horrible, and wouldn't want to endure them. But all I hear from the "news" is how bad it is because it's like smoking a pack of cigarettes.

                              Cigarettes are nasty, vile things (gawd, how I miss them), but the irritant effects of this disaster are what should be stressed.

                              I wonder how effective the (K)N95 masks are in terms of preventing irritation. Certainly, nothing for the eyes, but in terms of inhaled particulates, do they work?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 12:21 last edited by
                                #20

                                Can we take a minute to discuss the fact that Code Red isn’t the worst level on their chart? I mean, isn’t that the whole gist of Code Red? Worst possible scenario with the bright primary color screaming danger? Code Maroon doesn’t carry the same urgency…

                                The Brad

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 12:29 last edited by
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                                  Green
                                  Yellow
                                  Red
                                  Angry Red
                                  Deadly Red

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 12:33 last edited by
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                                    It sounds like something from a Mel Brooks movie.. “Oh no! The alarm is going off! Is it a Code Red?!” “It’s worse… It’s a Code PURPLE!” Cue music and zoom camera in to horrified faces….

                                    The Brad

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                                    • L LuFins Dad
                                      8 Jun 2023, 12:33

                                      It sounds like something from a Mel Brooks movie.. “Oh no! The alarm is going off! Is it a Code Red?!” “It’s worse… It’s a Code PURPLE!” Cue music and zoom camera in to horrified faces….

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 12:35 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                      It sounds like something from a Mel Brooks movie.. “Oh no! The alarm is going off! Is it a Code Red?!” “It’s worse… It’s a Code PURPLE!” Cue music and zoom camera in to horrified faces….

                                      Before you know it, it'll go plaid.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • G George K
                                        8 Jun 2023, 12:08

                                        @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                        Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                                        Yup. The health dangers from one pack of smokes are negligible. However, as you point out the irritant effect of inhaling the smoke can precipitate an asthmatic attack or worse. Remember how you coughed your lungs out the first time you had a smoke? I do.

                                        But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                                        Again, you're right. I'm not discounting the irritant effects at all. I'm sure they're horrible, and wouldn't want to endure them. But all I hear from the "news" is how bad it is because it's like smoking a pack of cigarettes.

                                        Cigarettes are nasty, vile things (gawd, how I miss them), but the irritant effects of this disaster are what should be stressed.

                                        I wonder how effective the (K)N95 masks are in terms of preventing irritation. Certainly, nothing for the eyes, but in terms of inhaled particulates, do they work?

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                                        Jon
                                        wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 12:51 last edited by
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                                        @George-K said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                        @Jon said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                        Very little I assume. But if you have asthma or copd yesterday probably sucked ass.

                                        Yup. The health dangers from one pack of smokes are negligible. However, as you point out the irritant effect of inhaling the smoke can precipitate an asthmatic attack or worse. Remember how you coughed your lungs out the first time you had a smoke? I do.

                                        But it’s not just lungs, people in NY felt their eyes burning yesterday. Imagine a pack of cigarettes being burned right under your eyes. That would be a bad day.

                                        Again, you're right. I'm not discounting the irritant effects at all. I'm sure they're horrible, and wouldn't want to endure them. But all I hear from the "news" is how bad it is because it's like smoking a pack of cigarettes.

                                        Cigarettes are nasty, vile things (gawd, how I miss them), but the irritant effects of this disaster are what should be stressed.

                                        I wonder how effective the (K)N95 masks are in terms of preventing irritation. Certainly, nothing for the eyes, but in terms of inhaled particulates, do they work?

                                        I assume they’re quite effective for small particles. Think of drywall guys or ceramic cutters or sawmill employees. They all wear construction grade n95s or even respirators.

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                                        • L LuFins Dad
                                          8 Jun 2023, 12:21

                                          Can we take a minute to discuss the fact that Code Red isn’t the worst level on their chart? I mean, isn’t that the whole gist of Code Red? Worst possible scenario with the bright primary color screaming danger? Code Maroon doesn’t carry the same urgency…

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                                          Jon
                                          wrote on 8 Jun 2023, 12:53 last edited by Jon 6 Aug 2023, 12:54
                                          #25

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in About that Canadian Smoke,,,:

                                          Can we take a minute to discuss the fact that Code Red isn’t the worst level on their chart? I mean, isn’t that the whole gist of Code Red? Worst possible scenario with the bright primary color screaming danger? Code Maroon doesn’t carry the same urgency…

                                          Yeah but again this was designed with chronic pollution in mind. You want a city in the 150-200 range to consider itself in the red zone.

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