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Debt Ceiling 2023

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #47

    Agreed, Jon. Despite his slightly confusing speech, the bipartisanship is encouraging.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      @George-K said in Debt Ceiling 2023:

      @Axtremus said in Debt Ceiling 2023:

      Biden to speak about the debt ceiling deal tonight at prime time (June 2, 2023, 7 PM Eastern).

      One of the provisions in the agreement is the cancellation of student debt forgiveness. Somewhere I read that that's a stand-alone bill.

      I wonder if he'll veto that.

      Nah, he’ll sign as is. He and McCarthy made the deal after all.

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      @Jon said in Debt Ceiling 2023:

      Nah, he’ll sign as is. He and McCarthy made the deal after all.

      Turley's article doesn't substantiate his comment about what KJP said.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/26/house-passes-bill-blocking-student-debt-forgiveness.html

        The Senate passed a bill on Thursday aimed at blocking President Joe Biden’s student debt forgiveness plan and ending the pause on federal student loan payments and interest.

        The Republican-sponsored bill passed by a vote of 52-46 with three Democrats joining Republicans in support of the resolution. The White House vowed to veto the bill before it went before the House.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • JonJ Offline
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          Jon
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          #50

          This is better in the end, ending the program would moot the SCOTUS case. I’d rather SCOTUS end it so no president tries again some day.

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            #51

            Bernie's op-ed:

            https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/02/bernie-sanders-debt-ceiling-bill

            Bernie says he could not vote for the debt ceiling bill because he thinks the bill cut programs for the most vulnerable, and thinks that Biden should have invoked the 14th Amendment to resolve the issue instead.

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            • JonJ Offline
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              Jon
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              #52

              That seems on-brand.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #53

                If Biden vetoes the bill, I'd beat him about the political head and shoulders until he is bowed and bloody. And if one, repeat one Social Security check gets delayed, I'd pin it on him like the tail on the Democrat donkey.

                It would be a helluva losing issue.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Aftermath:

                  https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/07/house-conservatives-choke-floor-action-as-revenge-for-debt-deal-00100785

                  House conservatives choke floor action as revenge for debt deal
                  ...
                  A band of roughly a dozen firebrands, mostly in the Trump-aligned Freedom Caucus, are now working to derail senior Republicans’ plans to pass even widely popular party priorities on the floor this week.
                  ...

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #55

                    Ain't that somethin'?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #56

                      Cutting off their nose to spite their face.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        And there goes the entire week for the House GOP:

                        https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4039569-house-cancels-votes-for-rest-of-week-amid-floor-chaos/amp/

                        House leaders canceled planned votes for the rest of the week amid a revolt by conservative members that brought any votes on the House floor to a halt.

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Great way to kill any chance of increasing seats in 2024.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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