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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    Blames and fires their marketing agency for the Mulvaney stuff.

    It’s a little silly since AB would have to approve any ad and any sponsorship agreement.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/anheuser-busch-blames-third-party-ad-agency-for-dylan-mulvaney-partnership-cuts-ties-amid-marketing-shakeup.amp

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • MikM Offline
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      Yep. A controversial campaign like that had to be approved at the highest levels.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        Yep. A controversial campaign like that had to be approved at the highest levels.

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        George K
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        @Mik said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

        A controversial campaign

        Maybe, just maybe, they didn't consider it controversial?

        And that says a lot.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Yep.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Now, what message does this send to other businesses?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Horace
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              I will probably never understand what the top level management understands, but what I do understand, the top level management never understands. I can easily believe the top level management never knew of this single beer can created in Mulvaney's image.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Now, what message does this send to other businesses?

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                Horace
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                @Jolly said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                Now, what message does this send to other businesses?

                They are all thinking about it heavily, and sending internal memos.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  If that's the case, it's plausible deniability.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    If that's the case, it's plausible deniability.

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                    @Mik said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                    If that's the case, it's plausible deniability.

                    They hired some ideologically captured and culturally relevant people, and trusted them to do their jobs. I can totally see this detail getting missed. It's plausible.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      It's a thing. And it's spreading.

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                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        A lifetime ago, I was involved with an organization that decided it was going to take a stand one of those 3rd rail issues. They worded their support in a way that they thought the world at large would accept. I was responsible for membership and was asked what impact I thought it would have on membership. I said, "we'll likely lose between 3,000 and 10,000 members." A 3,000 member loss would be about a million dollars. They went ahead with the policy and immediately lost 3,000 members. I was actually pleased that it was only 3,000 members. BUT - being geniuses, they were SHOCKED!! And consequently, they decided to retract the policy - meaning that they now would lose more members who actually supported the policy.

                        If you run someone over, have the courtesy not to back over the body.

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                          So they had no commitment one way or the other.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            I will probably never understand what the top level management understands, but what I do understand, the top level management never understands. I can easily believe the top level management never knew of this single beer can created in Mulvaney's image.

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                            @Horace said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                            I will probably never understand what the top level management understands, but what I do understand, the top level management never understands.

                            555 Very wise (and very true) words. I agree.

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                            • kluursK kluurs

                              A lifetime ago, I was involved with an organization that decided it was going to take a stand one of those 3rd rail issues. They worded their support in a way that they thought the world at large would accept. I was responsible for membership and was asked what impact I thought it would have on membership. I said, "we'll likely lose between 3,000 and 10,000 members." A 3,000 member loss would be about a million dollars. They went ahead with the policy and immediately lost 3,000 members. I was actually pleased that it was only 3,000 members. BUT - being geniuses, they were SHOCKED!! And consequently, they decided to retract the policy - meaning that they now would lose more members who actually supported the policy.

                              If you run someone over, have the courtesy not to back over the body.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #14

                              @kluurs That’s like what the Susan G Komen foundation did with its planned parenthood flip flops. That was a decade ago and it still hasn’t recovered.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Blames and fires their marketing agency for the Mulvaney stuff.

                                It’s a little silly since AB would have to approve any ad and any sponsorship agreement.

                                https://www.foxnews.com/media/anheuser-busch-blames-third-party-ad-agency-for-dylan-mulvaney-partnership-cuts-ties-amid-marketing-shakeup.amp

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                                @jon-nyc said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                Blames and fires their marketing agency for the Mulvaney stuff.

                                It’s a little silly since AB would have to approve any ad and any sponsorship agreement.

                                That's the move, though. That's just how they do it.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  Well, it’s not working. The sales decline is increasing aaaaaand is spreading to other AB brands…

                                  https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/bud-lights-sales-drop-is-accelerating-amid-dylan-mulvaney-fiasco/

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Well, it’s not working. The sales decline is increasing aaaaaand is spreading to other AB brands…

                                    https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/bud-lights-sales-drop-is-accelerating-amid-dylan-mulvaney-fiasco/

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                    Well, it’s not working.

                                    It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                      Well, it’s not working.

                                      It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

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                                      Jolly
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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                      Well, it’s not working.

                                      It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

                                      At what point do the C-levels start to sweat?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                        Well, it’s not working.

                                        It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

                                        At what point do the C-levels start to sweat?

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                                        @Jolly said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                        Well, it’s not working.

                                        It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

                                        At what point do the C-levels start to sweat?

                                        Eh, depends. Some of 'em might just jump ship. 😄 Those folks move around quite a bit.

                                        The ones committed, though, are probably sweating plenty. I'm just saying the agency firing is standard practice and I doubt they were expecting it'd turn around their numbers.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          And while the stock had recouped the drop a month ago, it’s fallen off a cliff this week.

                                          The Brad

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