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Anheuser-Busch points the finger

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #5

    Now, what message does this send to other businesses?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Horace
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      #6

      I will probably never understand what the top level management understands, but what I do understand, the top level management never understands. I can easily believe the top level management never knew of this single beer can created in Mulvaney's image.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Now, what message does this send to other businesses?

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        @Jolly said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

        Now, what message does this send to other businesses?

        They are all thinking about it heavily, and sending internal memos.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Offline
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          If that's the case, it's plausible deniability.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            If that's the case, it's plausible deniability.

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            Horace
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            @Mik said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

            If that's the case, it's plausible deniability.

            They hired some ideologically captured and culturally relevant people, and trusted them to do their jobs. I can totally see this detail getting missed. It's plausible.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • MikM Offline
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              #10

              It's a thing. And it's spreading.

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              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                A lifetime ago, I was involved with an organization that decided it was going to take a stand one of those 3rd rail issues. They worded their support in a way that they thought the world at large would accept. I was responsible for membership and was asked what impact I thought it would have on membership. I said, "we'll likely lose between 3,000 and 10,000 members." A 3,000 member loss would be about a million dollars. They went ahead with the policy and immediately lost 3,000 members. I was actually pleased that it was only 3,000 members. BUT - being geniuses, they were SHOCKED!! And consequently, they decided to retract the policy - meaning that they now would lose more members who actually supported the policy.

                If you run someone over, have the courtesy not to back over the body.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #12

                  So they had no commitment one way or the other.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    I will probably never understand what the top level management understands, but what I do understand, the top level management never understands. I can easily believe the top level management never knew of this single beer can created in Mulvaney's image.

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                    #13

                    @Horace said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                    I will probably never understand what the top level management understands, but what I do understand, the top level management never understands.

                    555 Very wise (and very true) words. I agree.

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                    • kluursK kluurs

                      A lifetime ago, I was involved with an organization that decided it was going to take a stand one of those 3rd rail issues. They worded their support in a way that they thought the world at large would accept. I was responsible for membership and was asked what impact I thought it would have on membership. I said, "we'll likely lose between 3,000 and 10,000 members." A 3,000 member loss would be about a million dollars. They went ahead with the policy and immediately lost 3,000 members. I was actually pleased that it was only 3,000 members. BUT - being geniuses, they were SHOCKED!! And consequently, they decided to retract the policy - meaning that they now would lose more members who actually supported the policy.

                      If you run someone over, have the courtesy not to back over the body.

                      jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #14

                      @kluurs That’s like what the Susan G Komen foundation did with its planned parenthood flip flops. That was a decade ago and it still hasn’t recovered.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Blames and fires their marketing agency for the Mulvaney stuff.

                        It’s a little silly since AB would have to approve any ad and any sponsorship agreement.

                        https://www.foxnews.com/media/anheuser-busch-blames-third-party-ad-agency-for-dylan-mulvaney-partnership-cuts-ties-amid-marketing-shakeup.amp

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #15

                        @jon-nyc said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                        Blames and fires their marketing agency for the Mulvaney stuff.

                        It’s a little silly since AB would have to approve any ad and any sponsorship agreement.

                        That's the move, though. That's just how they do it.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Well, it’s not working. The sales decline is increasing aaaaaand is spreading to other AB brands…

                          https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/bud-lights-sales-drop-is-accelerating-amid-dylan-mulvaney-fiasco/

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Well, it’s not working. The sales decline is increasing aaaaaand is spreading to other AB brands…

                            https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/bud-lights-sales-drop-is-accelerating-amid-dylan-mulvaney-fiasco/

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                            Well, it’s not working.

                            It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                              Well, it’s not working.

                              It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                              Well, it’s not working.

                              It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

                              At what point do the C-levels start to sweat?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                Well, it’s not working.

                                It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

                                At what point do the C-levels start to sweat?

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                                Aqua Letifer
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                                @Jolly said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Anheuser-Busch points the finger:

                                Well, it’s not working.

                                It's working perfectly. They don't fire the agency to make customers come back. They fire the agency so that C-levels have scapegoats. And agencies know full well that's part of their job, this shit is just how they do things.

                                At what point do the C-levels start to sweat?

                                Eh, depends. Some of 'em might just jump ship. 😄 Those folks move around quite a bit.

                                The ones committed, though, are probably sweating plenty. I'm just saying the agency firing is standard practice and I doubt they were expecting it'd turn around their numbers.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  And while the stock had recouped the drop a month ago, it’s fallen off a cliff this week.

                                  The Brad

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