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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #66

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzjew/chatgpt-is-so-bad-at-essays-that-professors-can-spot-it-instantly

    ChatGPT Is So Bad at Essays That Professors Can Spot It Instantly
    “The first indicator that I was dealing with AI was that, despite the syntactic coherence of the essay, it made no sense.”
    ...

    Aqua LetiferA LuFins DadL 2 Replies Last reply
    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzjew/chatgpt-is-so-bad-at-essays-that-professors-can-spot-it-instantly

      ChatGPT Is So Bad at Essays That Professors Can Spot It Instantly
      “The first indicator that I was dealing with AI was that, despite the syntactic coherence of the essay, it made no sense.”
      ...

      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by
      #67

      @Axtremus said in Chat GPT:

      https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzjew/chatgpt-is-so-bad-at-essays-that-professors-can-spot-it-instantly

      ChatGPT Is So Bad at Essays That Professors Can Spot It Instantly
      “The first indicator that I was dealing with AI was that, despite the syntactic coherence of the essay, it made no sense.”
      ...

      Today only.

      Please love yourself.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzjew/chatgpt-is-so-bad-at-essays-that-professors-can-spot-it-instantly

        ChatGPT Is So Bad at Essays That Professors Can Spot It Instantly
        “The first indicator that I was dealing with AI was that, despite the syntactic coherence of the essay, it made no sense.”
        ...

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #68

        @Axtremus said in Chat GPT:

        https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzjew/chatgpt-is-so-bad-at-essays-that-professors-can-spot-it-instantly

        ChatGPT Is So Bad at Essays That Professors Can Spot It Instantly
        “The first indicator that I was dealing with AI was that, despite the syntactic coherence of the essay, it made no sense.”
        ...

        You don’t need to be a professor, Aqua and I compared articles several months ago and identified the AI articles. But that’s today. Look at the growth
        , look at the trends. AI can’t go backwards or even stay stagnant by the very definition.

        The Brad

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        • NunataxN Offline
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          Nunatax
          wrote on last edited by
          #69

          I tried Chat GPT two weeks ago. If you use it with the right mindset, it can be very helpful and speed up your work. I was running into issues while trying to write an Excel macro. Normally I would do some Google searches to find the solution, but I tried Chat GPT and it provided the solution in under a minute.

          We also had an experimental study running at an external lab to determine the dissociation constant of a chemical. We had doubts about the formulas they were using but didn’t have access to the guideline. Trying to find the answer with Google proved to be quite time consuming. Using Chat GPT, I was able to derive the formula relatively quickly. On the other hand, it also made some mistakes which could easily be missed if you’re not paying attention. I would not use any formulas it provides before having verified them.

          I would personally also not use texts it writes, at least not without adapting them. Oh, and don’t ask it to provide references… they are all fake… it knows how a reference is structured and knows the journals and authors that are typically associated with a certain subject. But it constructs references in the same way it constructs all its other text: word by word… Artificial? Yes… Intelligent? Maybe not so much… 😄

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by
            #70

            https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ibm-expects-to-pause-hiring-for-thousands-of-jobs-that-can-be-done-by-ai-report-51958ef

            IBM expects to pause hiring for non-customer facing roles. HR is cited as an example. The article mentions that such roles number around 26,000 and expects ~30% reduction in these roles, about ~8,000 jobs.

            CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
            • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
              #71

              "I've never hired a better writer than ChatGPT."

              https://www.forbes.com.au/news/innovation/chatgpt-writing-how-ai-is-upending-the-freelance-world/

              There are 830,000 freelancers on Fiverr.
              About 12 million on Upwork.
              About 50 million on Freelancer.com.

              Please love yourself.

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                Axtremus
                wrote on last edited by
                #72

                https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-02/hollywood-writers-go-on-strike-seek-higher-pay-in-streaming-era

                Hollywood writers go on strike. This is news on its own right. Buried in there is this little nugget:

                The guild added that the studios have been “stonewalling” on issues such as the use of artificial intelligence in script production.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #73

                  Shucks, you don't think AI couldn't write a Hallmark script?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #74

                    And in other news, 8000 at IBM...

                    https://nationandstate.com/2023/05/01/ibm-to-stop-hiring-for-roles-that-can-be-replaced-by-ai-nearly-8000-workers-to-be-replaced-by-automation/?amp

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                    AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      And in other news, 8000 at IBM...

                      https://nationandstate.com/2023/05/01/ibm-to-stop-hiring-for-roles-that-can-be-replaced-by-ai-nearly-8000-workers-to-be-replaced-by-automation/?amp

                      AxtremusA Offline
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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #75

                      @Jolly said in Chat GPT:

                      And in other news, 8000 at IBM...

                      https://nationandstate.com/2023/05/01/ibm-to-stop-hiring-for-roles-that-can-be-replaced-by-ai-nearly-8000-workers-to-be-replaced-by-automation/?amp

                      Pwned, four posts before yours.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-02/hollywood-writers-go-on-strike-seek-higher-pay-in-streaming-era

                        Hollywood writers go on strike. This is news on its own right. Buried in there is this little nugget:

                        The guild added that the studios have been “stonewalling” on issues such as the use of artificial intelligence in script production.

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #76

                        @Axtremus said in Chat GPT:

                        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-02/hollywood-writers-go-on-strike-seek-higher-pay-in-streaming-era

                        Hollywood writers go on strike. This is news on its own right. Buried in there is this little nugget:

                        The guild added that the studios have been “stonewalling” on issues such as the use of artificial intelligence in script production.

                        @Axtremus said in Chat GPT:

                        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-02/hollywood-writers-go-on-strike-seek-higher-pay-in-streaming-era

                        Hollywood writers go on strike. This is news on its own right. Buried in there is this little nugget:

                        The guild added that the studios have been “stonewalling” on issues such as the use of artificial intelligence in script production.

                        That's because that "buried little nugget" has nothing to do with anything. The strike isn't about AI.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ibm-expects-to-pause-hiring-for-thousands-of-jobs-that-can-be-done-by-ai-report-51958ef

                          IBM expects to pause hiring for non-customer facing roles. HR is cited as an example. The article mentions that such roles number around 26,000 and expects ~30% reduction in these roles, about ~8,000 jobs.

                          CopperC Offline
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                          Copper
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #77

                          @Axtremus said in Chat GPT:

                          HR is cited as an example.

                          Excellent

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            @Axtremus said in Chat GPT:

                            HR is cited as an example.

                            Excellent

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #78

                            @Copper said in Chat GPT:

                            @Axtremus said in Chat GPT:

                            HR is cited as an example.

                            Excellent

                            I'd rather have human HR gremlins over AI.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #79

                              Screenshot 2023-05-03 at 12.48.30 AM.png

                              Look 'em up if you don't know what they do.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #80

                                AI is definitely going to have an impact on certain job positions. I think in history, this has always happened when new technology occurs.

                                I remember reading an article about the pretty sudden decrease in the number of blacksmiths/horseshoe people as the automobiles increased and the need for their services was no longer needed.

                                With AI, it is like the box that is opened and impossible to shut again.

                                We have to adapt.

                                Maybe not a perfect example, but when was the last time you had an iceman (or milkman) come to the house?

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #81

                                  An AI generated beer commercial. Really weird! LOL

                                  Interesting to see what it would like in a year from now.

                                  "it appears they likely created it using Runway's new Gen-2 AI model, which can create short video clips based on written prompts similar to how Stable Diffusion can create still images."

                                  https://privateisland.tv/project#synthetic-summer

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    Screenshot 2023-05-03 at 12.48.30 AM.png

                                    Look 'em up if you don't know what they do.

                                    AxtremusA Offline
                                    AxtremusA Offline
                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #82

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Chat GPT:

                                    Look 'em up if you don't know what they [Chegg] do.

                                    Years ago, I bought a mobile phone app by some German developer called "Math 42," an easy to use, no fuzz app that, you type in a math problem in the form of an equation, it shows you the steps to get to the solution(s). Not as powerful as, say, established desktop applications like Maple or Mathematica, but good enough for many K-12 math problems. I was quite happy with "Math 42."

                                    Then Chegg bought out "Math 42," and soon the app became unusable. All of a sudden you're required to "create an account" with Chegg and has to "login" to use the app. First I gave it the benefit of the doubt and tried to create an account, etc. The backend system never worked, I could never successfully "login," and "Math 42" became completely unusable to me. I have since deleted it from my devices and I have been pessimistic about Chegg ever since.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Chat GPT:

                                      Look 'em up if you don't know what they [Chegg] do.

                                      Years ago, I bought a mobile phone app by some German developer called "Math 42," an easy to use, no fuzz app that, you type in a math problem in the form of an equation, it shows you the steps to get to the solution(s). Not as powerful as, say, established desktop applications like Maple or Mathematica, but good enough for many K-12 math problems. I was quite happy with "Math 42."

                                      Then Chegg bought out "Math 42," and soon the app became unusable. All of a sudden you're required to "create an account" with Chegg and has to "login" to use the app. First I gave it the benefit of the doubt and tried to create an account, etc. The backend system never worked, I could never successfully "login," and "Math 42" became completely unusable to me. I have since deleted it from my devices and I have been pessimistic about Chegg ever since.

                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #83

                                      @Axtremus said in Chat GPT:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Chat GPT:

                                      Look 'em up if you don't know what they [Chegg] do.

                                      Years ago, I bought a mobile phone app by some German developer called "Math 42," an easy to use, no fuzz app that, you type in a math problem in the form of an equation, it shows you the steps to get to the solution(s). Not as powerful as, say, established desktop applications like Maple or Mathematica, but good enough for many K-12 math problems. I was quite happy with "Math 42."

                                      Then Chegg bought out "Math 42," and soon the app became unusable. All of a sudden you're required to "create an account" with Chegg and has to "login" to use the app. First I gave it the benefit of the doubt and tried to create an account, etc. The backend system never worked, I could never successfully "login," and "Math 42" became completely unusable to me. I have since deleted it from my devices and I have been pessimistic about Chegg ever since.

                                      No reason to be pessimistic, they won't be around much longer.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        #84

                                        Do not trust ChatGPT

                                        https://www.thestreet.com/reference/education/chatgpt-mistake-costs-recent-college-graduates-their-diplomas

                                        Some college prof. tried to use ChatGPT to "detect" whether students' papers were written with ChatGPT and found many false positives, delaying many graduating students from properly receiving their diplomas.

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #85

                                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/federal-judge-no-ai-in-my-courtroom-unless-a-human-verifies-its-accuracy/

                                          Federal judge: No AI in my courtroom unless a human verifies its accuracy
                                          Judge wary of AI "hallucinations," says it isn't acceptable for legal briefing.

                                          For now, I think it’s a good rule.

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