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Refrigerate or no?

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    I use a sharp knife to cut thin slices of butter and they melt really fast in warm toast.

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    @jon-nyc said in Refrigerate or no?:

    I use a sharp knife to cut thin slices of butter and they melt really fast in warm toast.

    Jacques Pépin... uses a vegetable peeler to shave off slices (from refrigerated butter).

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Bought an Oxo buttter dish once to experiment with leaving leaving a stick of butter in room temperature. It's nice for a while, but my household simply does not consume butter fast enough to finish the stick before it gets moldy. I have been refreshing butter since, like I used to before I bought the butter dish.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        Bought an Oxo buttter dish once to experiment with leaving leaving a stick of butter in room temperature. It's nice for a while, but my household simply does not consume butter fast enough to finish the stick before it gets moldy. I have been refreshing butter since, like I used to before I bought the butter dish.

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        @Axtremus we don't go through a lot either. However, the Butter Bell that @jolly recommended worked really well for a couple of weeks. I just kept forgetting/neglecting to fill it

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Axtremus we don't go through a lot either. However, the Butter Bell that @jolly recommended worked really well for a couple of weeks. I just kept forgetting/neglecting to fill it

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          @George-K , thanks. Leaving butter in room temperature for a couple of weeks is not a problem. It didn't get moldy until quite a few more weeks later. As I recall, the mold started from the bottom of the butter stick. Casually looking at it from outside the butter dish one would not spot the mold at first.

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            I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

            Mine refrigerated butter and ketchup and eggs, did not refrigerate bread. I do the same.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              When I’m on vacation in Europe or South America and buy non-refrigerated eggs, I still refrigerate them, even knowing they’ll be fine for the week or so I’m there. It’s just habit.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

                  Mine refrigerated butter and ketchup and eggs, did not refrigerate bread. I do the same.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Refrigerate or no?:

                  I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

                  It's a reasonable hypothesis. Though that predictor may not exist for those growing up in households that did not regularly keep any butter.

                  There may be a parallel to this, like, "do you refrigerate soy sauce."

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

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                    @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                    I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                    I was going to ask about that...

                    Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

                      Mine refrigerated butter and ketchup and eggs, did not refrigerate bread. I do the same.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Refrigerate or no?:

                      I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

                      Mine refrigerated butter and ketchup and eggs, did not refrigerate bread. I do the same.

                      WRONG, Sampson!

                      At least sort of. My mom always refrigerates. As does my wife's mom. Always has.

                      But our grandmothers, on the other hand...

                      We kick it old-school and don't refrigerate.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                        I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                        I was going to ask about that...

                        Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

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                        @George-K said in Refrigerate or no?:

                        @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                        I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                        I was going to ask about that...

                        Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                        Yep. I buy several loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them. Pricey, but great stuff. When I keep them in the fridge, no mold.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          @George-K said in Refrigerate or no?:

                          @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                          I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                          I was going to ask about that...

                          Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                          Yep. I buy several loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them. Pricey, but great stuff. When I keep them in the fridge, no mold.

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                          @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                          @George-K said in Refrigerate or no?:

                          @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                          I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                          I was going to ask about that...

                          Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                          Yep. I buy several loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them. Pricey, but great stuff. When I keep them in the fridge, no mold.

                          We don't freeze or refrigerate ours, just because we buy weekly and burn through it that fast.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            @George-K said in Refrigerate or no?:

                            @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                            I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                            I was going to ask about that...

                            Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                            Yep. I buy several loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them. Pricey, but great stuff. When I keep them in the fridge, no mold.

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                            @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                            loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them

                            No freezer burn?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Not if it's only in there a few weeks, no.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Interesting. Googling around, it seems that bread storage is quite controversial.

                                • It's fine to freeze!
                                • It's fine to freeze, but it might taste stale!
                                • Use a breadbox on the counter
                                • NEVER wrap in plastic
                                • Refrigeration makes it taste stale
                                • Refrigeration is great

                                Wow.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  I freeze fresh bread for a week or so no problem.

                                  I’ll buy a fresh baguette and cut it in quarters and use it for sandwiches. Frozen right after cutting and thaw each section out the morning I’m going to use it.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    We routinely leave butter out of the refrigerator. After a few weeks, if it has not been consumed, and it starts to turn color, we toss it.

                                    Refrigerate and freeze bread, buns, bagels. But also have a breadbox. When we get more bread then we will consume within a few days, into the refrigerator or freezer.

                                    Eggs are purchased at the grocery store so they stay refrigerated.

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                                      Bread and butter both go in the freezer.

                                      Bread moves to the countertop, remaining in the plastic wrap, the day before use.

                                      Butter moves to the refrigerator the day before use.

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                                        We only use butter for baking so when we have it in the house at all, it goes in the fridge.

                                        Bread in a basket on kitchen counter.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Axtremus we don't go through a lot either. However, the Butter Bell that @jolly recommended worked really well for a couple of weeks. I just kept forgetting/neglecting to fill it

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                                          @George-K said in Refrigerate or no?:

                                          @Axtremus we don't go through a lot either. However, the Butter Bell that @jolly recommended worked really well for a couple of weeks. I just kept forgetting/neglecting to fill it

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                                          Two weeks or maybe a bit more. Since we do about a stick/week, it's a Sunday night routine.

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