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Refrigerate or no?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:16 last edited by
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    I use a sharp knife to cut thin slices of butter and they melt really fast in warm toast.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:19 last edited by
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      I’ve always had 1 stick of butter out and the rest in the fridge. Cold butter sucks and there’s no need…

      The Brad

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      • J jon-nyc
        28 Apr 2023, 12:16

        I use a sharp knife to cut thin slices of butter and they melt really fast in warm toast.

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        George K
        wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:20 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Refrigerate or no?:

        I use a sharp knife to cut thin slices of butter and they melt really fast in warm toast.

        Jacques Pépin... uses a vegetable peeler to shave off slices (from refrigerated butter).

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:20 last edited by
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          Bought an Oxo buttter dish once to experiment with leaving leaving a stick of butter in room temperature. It's nice for a while, but my household simply does not consume butter fast enough to finish the stick before it gets moldy. I have been refreshing butter since, like I used to before I bought the butter dish.

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          • A Axtremus
            28 Apr 2023, 12:20

            Bought an Oxo buttter dish once to experiment with leaving leaving a stick of butter in room temperature. It's nice for a while, but my household simply does not consume butter fast enough to finish the stick before it gets moldy. I have been refreshing butter since, like I used to before I bought the butter dish.

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            George K
            wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:25 last edited by
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            @Axtremus we don't go through a lot either. However, the Butter Bell that @jolly recommended worked really well for a couple of weeks. I just kept forgetting/neglecting to fill it

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              28 Apr 2023, 12:25

              @Axtremus we don't go through a lot either. However, the Butter Bell that @jolly recommended worked really well for a couple of weeks. I just kept forgetting/neglecting to fill it

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:36 last edited by
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              @George-K , thanks. Leaving butter in room temperature for a couple of weeks is not a problem. It didn't get moldy until quite a few more weeks later. As I recall, the mold started from the bottom of the butter stick. Casually looking at it from outside the butter dish one would not spot the mold at first.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:36 last edited by
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                I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

                Mine refrigerated butter and ketchup and eggs, did not refrigerate bread. I do the same.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:38 last edited by
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                  When I’m on vacation in Europe or South America and buy non-refrigerated eggs, I still refrigerate them, even knowing they’ll be fine for the week or so I’m there. It’s just habit.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                    Mik
                    wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:39 last edited by
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                    I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      28 Apr 2023, 12:36

                      I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

                      Mine refrigerated butter and ketchup and eggs, did not refrigerate bread. I do the same.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:41 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Refrigerate or no?:

                      I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

                      It's a reasonable hypothesis. Though that predictor may not exist for those growing up in households that did not regularly keep any butter.

                      There may be a parallel to this, like, "do you refrigerate soy sauce."

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                      • M Mik
                        28 Apr 2023, 12:39

                        I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 12:57 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                        I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                        I was going to ask about that...

                        Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          28 Apr 2023, 12:36

                          I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

                          Mine refrigerated butter and ketchup and eggs, did not refrigerate bread. I do the same.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 13:01 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in Refrigerate or no?:

                          I suspect the biggest predictor of whether or not one refrigerates butter is whether or not your mom did when you were growing up.

                          Mine refrigerated butter and ketchup and eggs, did not refrigerate bread. I do the same.

                          WRONG, Sampson!

                          At least sort of. My mom always refrigerates. As does my wife's mom. Always has.

                          But our grandmothers, on the other hand...

                          We kick it old-school and don't refrigerate.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • G George K
                            28 Apr 2023, 12:57

                            @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                            I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                            I was going to ask about that...

                            Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 13:06 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in Refrigerate or no?:

                            @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                            I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                            I was going to ask about that...

                            Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                            Yep. I buy several loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them. Pricey, but great stuff. When I keep them in the fridge, no mold.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • M Mik
                              28 Apr 2023, 13:06

                              @George-K said in Refrigerate or no?:

                              @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                              I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                              I was going to ask about that...

                              Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                              Yep. I buy several loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them. Pricey, but great stuff. When I keep them in the fridge, no mold.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 13:11 last edited by
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                              @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                              @George-K said in Refrigerate or no?:

                              @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                              I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                              I was going to ask about that...

                              Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                              Yep. I buy several loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them. Pricey, but great stuff. When I keep them in the fridge, no mold.

                              We don't freeze or refrigerate ours, just because we buy weekly and burn through it that fast.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • M Mik
                                28 Apr 2023, 13:06

                                @George-K said in Refrigerate or no?:

                                @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                                I do refrigerate bread. It lasts a lot longer.

                                I was going to ask about that...

                                Not unusual for a loaf to go moldy here. I frequently buy a loaf and, after vacuum-sealing, freeze it.

                                Yep. I buy several loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them. Pricey, but great stuff. When I keep them in the fridge, no mold.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 13:11 last edited by
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                                @Mik said in Refrigerate or no?:

                                loaves of Whole Foods sourdough and freeze them

                                No freezer burn?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 13:17 last edited by
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                                  Not if it's only in there a few weeks, no.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 13:23 last edited by
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                                    Interesting. Googling around, it seems that bread storage is quite controversial.

                                    • It's fine to freeze!
                                    • It's fine to freeze, but it might taste stale!
                                    • Use a breadbox on the counter
                                    • NEVER wrap in plastic
                                    • Refrigeration makes it taste stale
                                    • Refrigeration is great

                                    Wow.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 13:30 last edited by
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                                      I freeze fresh bread for a week or so no problem.

                                      I’ll buy a fresh baguette and cut it in quarters and use it for sandwiches. Frozen right after cutting and thaw each section out the morning I’m going to use it.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        mark
                                        wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 13:51 last edited by
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                                        We routinely leave butter out of the refrigerator. After a few weeks, if it has not been consumed, and it starts to turn color, we toss it.

                                        Refrigerate and freeze bread, buns, bagels. But also have a breadbox. When we get more bread then we will consume within a few days, into the refrigerator or freezer.

                                        Eggs are purchased at the grocery store so they stay refrigerated.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 28 Apr 2023, 14:56 last edited by Copper
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                                          Bread and butter both go in the freezer.

                                          Bread moves to the countertop, remaining in the plastic wrap, the day before use.

                                          Butter moves to the refrigerator the day before use.

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