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DACA Dollars

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    What's a few billion dollars?...

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/13/report-biden-to-gift-health-plan-aid-to-illegal-migrants/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      What's a few billion dollars?...

      In this case it's good policy making good investments in a significant chunk of youthful human resource for the American economy and the American communities. The sooner we integrate and accept the DACA dreamers as Americans, the better.

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        Yes, the way to have an honest and law-abiding citizenry is to subsidize the law-breakers.

        And what happens when you subsidize something? You get more of it. We need more illegal immigrants, right?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Yes, the way to have an honest and law-abiding citizenry is to subsidize the law-breakers.

          And what happens when you subsidize something? You get more of it. We need more illegal immigrants, right?

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          @Jolly said in DACA Dollars:

          Yes, the way to have an honest and law-abiding citizenry is to subsidize the law-breakers.

          DACA dreamers are victims brought over as children by other adults who broke the law.

          And what happens when you subsidize something? You get more of it.

          This proposed policy subsidizes victims. If you think subsidizing victims create more of them and you don't want "more victims," you might as well outlaw disaster relief programs and most charities.

          We need more illegal immigrants, right?

          With a fertility rate well below replacement rate, we need more legal immigrants. Reduce the red tapes for legal immigrants to come here is one way to achieve that. Another way is to make legal the "illegal" immigrants who got brought here as children by other adults through no fault of their own -- that's what DACA does.

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            You know what, scooter?

            Life ain't fair. And man is not perfect.

            The only way to have a functioning society, is to have fair laws, reasonably enforced to try to create equal justice under those laws. People who break laws should be treated with a modicum of compassion, but break the law they did.

            Therefore, should they be rewarded or penalized?

            The only logical thing to do, is to penalize them in some way, not reward them, which is what you desire to do. And then you wish to double down and increase the number of people entering the country illegally.

            Newsflash, scooter...Those illegals are sucking resources. Money that either should never have been spent or money that should be spent on citizens. Schools, healthcare, infrastructure, etc., all cost more than they should, factoring in the illegals.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              And who are the people broaching our borders? Do we have herds of engineers, doctors, accountants, and other trained people wading the Rio Grande?

              Show me how illegals make our economy better?

              Show me why we should be one of the few nations on earth without secure borders? Is not a nation without borders not a nation? Or is the ultimate destruction of our society the ultimate goal of people who support illegal immigration?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                You know what, scooter?

                Life ain't fair. And man is not perfect.

                The only way to have a functioning society, is to have fair laws, reasonably enforced to try to create equal justice under those laws. People who break laws should be treated with a modicum of compassion, but break the law they did.

                Therefore, should they be rewarded or penalized?

                The only logical thing to do, is to penalize them in some way, not reward them, which is what you desire to do. And then you wish to double down and increase the number of people entering the country illegally.

                Newsflash, scooter...Those illegals are sucking resources. Money that either should never have been spent or money that should be spent on citizens. Schools, healthcare, infrastructure, etc., all cost more than they should, factoring in the illegals.

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                @Jolly said in DACA Dollars:

                You know what, scooter?

                Life ain't fair. And man is not perfect.

                The only way to have a functioning society, is to have fair laws, reasonably enforced to try to create equal justice under those laws. People who break laws should be treated with a modicum of compassion, but break the law they did.

                Therefore, should they be rewarded or penalized?

                The only logical thing to do, is to penalize them in some way, not reward them, which is what you desire to do. And then you wish to double down and increase the number of people entering the country illegally.

                Newsflash, scooter...Those illegals are sucking resources. Money that either should never have been spent or money that should be spent on citizens. Schools, healthcare, infrastructure, etc., all cost more than they should, factoring in the illegals.

                Read on the news today:
                https://nypost.com/2023/03/03/bidens-migrant-mess-costing-new-york-city-5-million-a-day/

                That's $5,000,000/day in one city. Now, tell me again about how wonderful illegals are?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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