Chansley's Lawyer Speaks
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@George-K said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
DOJ responds:
Well, the good news is that they have the video too…
They are more than welcome to air it as well…
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@George-K said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
DOJ responds:
Well, the good news is that they have the video too…
They are more than welcome to air it as well…
@LuFins-Dad said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
@George-K said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
DOJ responds:
Well, the good news is that they have the video too…
They are more than welcome to air it as well…
Yep.
And what if they have an hour of tape without the guy being violent?
Which I doubt, since the FBI would never lie to the American public.
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Chansley's (first) lawyer responds to the government filing.
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The Government’s assertion is erroneous. In the weeks prior to the plea repeated requests were made to make sure we had all the video footage. In response, AUSA Paschall produced a number of videos, some of which were produced just prior to the plea, necessitating an in-person visit with Jake where he was confined to show him the footage prior to finalizing his decision to enter into the plea deal.
The plea deal allowed for an appeal of the sentence. Jake was specifically permitted under the plea agreement to argue for a sentence beneath the range established under the Federal Sentencing Guidelines.
At the same time there was genuine concern about the ability of ant J6 defendant to receive a dais [i.e., fair] trial before any jury comprised of residents of the District of Columbia.
The footage that was specific to Jake was to have been fully disclosed by the Government prior to the plea.
The timing of the footage is important as it fully debunks the Government’s often repeated assertion that Jake was a danger; leading the charge into the Capitol; inciting others; threatening others, and obstructing an official proceeding.
This footage would have been of significant value to the court during any one of the three motions I argued before the court to seek the Pretrial release of Jake during which the Government characterized Jake’s flag and pole set as a deadly weapon.
Review of the Court’s orders in response to the motions for Pretrial release it is clear the Court relied heavily on the Government’s mischaracterization of Jake as being a danger.
The plea hearing for Jake involved the careful and detailed examination of Jake under oath to ensure that he was knowingly and voluntarily entering into the plea, having been fully informed of all material evidence prior to making his decision. This was an examination that took place in the presence of the AUSA.
The Court was not aware of this footage. It was material. The Court was determined to make sure Jake’s plea was freely and voluntarily entered into.
At sentencing, the court specifically noted that if Jake had gone to trial and been found guilty he would have been sentenced to a far greater period of incarceration in the custody of the Bureau of Prisons.
The verdicts to date have all been swift repudiations of the arguments set forth by defendant.
At the time of his sentence, Jake received the most time. Presently, Jake is the recipient of the 30th longest sentence.
Recall, at the time of his plea, Jake had been in solitary confinement for approximately 11 months…and was enduring the mental health hardships associated with his diagnosis, rendering him fighting for his life and mental health well being.
Jake was sentenced and thereafter engaged new counsel who had the time to file a motion asserting ineffective assistance of counsel. He did not do so. He filed a notice of appeal but dismissed the appellate proceeding before filing a brief.
Over one year and two months following sentencing the Government’s own video footage comes to light on Tucker Carlson’s show.
This was not a function of a rogue AUSA, but rather, a function of a discovery protocol established at the highest levels of the DOJ.
Remember, the DOJ characterized Jake as the face of insurrection. The assertion that the non-disclosure of the exculpatory footage was a “whoops” moment in nothing short of unconscionable.
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"In solitary confinement for 11 months."
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Chansley's (second) lawyer responds:
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The Government’s filing in the case now before Judge Kelly seems artfully written to avoid an affirmative statement about when and in what manner the videos in question were produced in discovery to Mr. Chansley’s prior counsel. Questions pertaining to the production of the Chansley videos played by Tucker Carlson were not before Judge Kelly. But those questions might be posed on Chansley’s behalf in other contexts where the Government could be required to produce more specific information as it relates directly to Mr. Chansley’s case. The Government’s filing suggests that it wasn’t prepared to that step just yet, only to maybe find it necessary to “walk back” something it might say now in haste for the purpose of addressing the issues before Judge Kelly.
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Chansley's (first) lawyer responds to the government filing.
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The Government’s assertion is erroneous. In the weeks prior to the plea repeated requests were made to make sure we had all the video footage. In response, AUSA Paschall produced a number of videos, some of which were produced just prior to the plea, necessitating an in-person visit with Jake where he was confined to show him the footage prior to finalizing his decision to enter into the plea deal.
The plea deal allowed for an appeal of the sentence. Jake was specifically permitted under the plea agreement to argue for a sentence beneath the range established under the Federal Sentencing Guidelines.
At the same time there was genuine concern about the ability of ant J6 defendant to receive a dais [i.e., fair] trial before any jury comprised of residents of the District of Columbia.
The footage that was specific to Jake was to have been fully disclosed by the Government prior to the plea.
The timing of the footage is important as it fully debunks the Government’s often repeated assertion that Jake was a danger; leading the charge into the Capitol; inciting others; threatening others, and obstructing an official proceeding.
This footage would have been of significant value to the court during any one of the three motions I argued before the court to seek the Pretrial release of Jake during which the Government characterized Jake’s flag and pole set as a deadly weapon.
Review of the Court’s orders in response to the motions for Pretrial release it is clear the Court relied heavily on the Government’s mischaracterization of Jake as being a danger.
The plea hearing for Jake involved the careful and detailed examination of Jake under oath to ensure that he was knowingly and voluntarily entering into the plea, having been fully informed of all material evidence prior to making his decision. This was an examination that took place in the presence of the AUSA.
The Court was not aware of this footage. It was material. The Court was determined to make sure Jake’s plea was freely and voluntarily entered into.
At sentencing, the court specifically noted that if Jake had gone to trial and been found guilty he would have been sentenced to a far greater period of incarceration in the custody of the Bureau of Prisons.
The verdicts to date have all been swift repudiations of the arguments set forth by defendant.
At the time of his sentence, Jake received the most time. Presently, Jake is the recipient of the 30th longest sentence.
Recall, at the time of his plea, Jake had been in solitary confinement for approximately 11 months…and was enduring the mental health hardships associated with his diagnosis, rendering him fighting for his life and mental health well being.
Jake was sentenced and thereafter engaged new counsel who had the time to file a motion asserting ineffective assistance of counsel. He did not do so. He filed a notice of appeal but dismissed the appellate proceeding before filing a brief.
Over one year and two months following sentencing the Government’s own video footage comes to light on Tucker Carlson’s show.
This was not a function of a rogue AUSA, but rather, a function of a discovery protocol established at the highest levels of the DOJ.
Remember, the DOJ characterized Jake as the face of insurrection. The assertion that the non-disclosure of the exculpatory footage was a “whoops” moment in nothing short of unconscionable.
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"In solitary confinement for 11 months."
What assertion is erroneous? From what I read yesterday (admittedly skimmed) the government didn’t claim anything inconsistent with that. They said all but 10s of the video was available before sentencing. They didn’t claim it was available before the plea.
How does additional video help a defense, anyway? I mean, if there’s video of you committing crimes at t1, how is other video showing you not committing crimes at t2 exculpatory?
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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What assertion is erroneous? From what I read yesterday (admittedly skimmed) the government didn’t claim anything inconsistent with that. They said all but 10s of the video was available before sentencing. They didn’t claim it was available before the plea.
How does additional video help a defense, anyway? I mean, if there’s video of you committing crimes at t1, how is other video showing you not committing crimes at t2 exculpatory?
@jon-nyc said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
How does additional video help a defense, anyway? I mean, if there’s video of you committing crimes at t1, how is other video showing you not committing crimes at t2 exculpatory?
I have many examples of myself not being a complete knobhead. Well, not many but some.
Ok, one. I was once not a complete knobhead.
Proof, as if any more were needed, that I am not a complete knobhead!
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What assertion is erroneous? From what I read yesterday (admittedly skimmed) the government didn’t claim anything inconsistent with that. They said all but 10s of the video was available before sentencing. They didn’t claim it was available before the plea.
How does additional video help a defense, anyway? I mean, if there’s video of you committing crimes at t1, how is other video showing you not committing crimes at t2 exculpatory?
@jon-nyc said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
What assertion is erroneous? From what I read yesterday (admittedly skimmed) the government didn’t claim anything inconsistent with that. They said all but 10s of the video was available before sentencing. They didn’t claim it was available before the plea.
How does additional video help a defense, anyway? I mean, if there’s video of you committing crimes at t1, how is other video showing you not committing crimes at t2 exculpatory?
Some of the video could reasonably be interpreted as showing that he was not a danger as was stated.
The video showing the defendant all should have been turned over to his defense attorneys.
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What assertion is erroneous? From what I read yesterday (admittedly skimmed) the government didn’t claim anything inconsistent with that. They said all but 10s of the video was available before sentencing. They didn’t claim it was available before the plea.
How does additional video help a defense, anyway? I mean, if there’s video of you committing crimes at t1, how is other video showing you not committing crimes at t2 exculpatory?
@jon-nyc said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
What assertion is erroneous? From what I read yesterday (admittedly skimmed) the government didn’t claim anything inconsistent with that. They said all but 10s of the video was available before sentencing. They didn’t claim it was available before the plea.
How does additional video help a defense, anyway? I mean, if there’s video of you committing crimes at t1, how is other video showing you not committing crimes at t2 exculpatory?
I agree.
For example, a video shows a car hijacking occurring. If you at the video before the car hijacking, it shows the hijacker helping an old lady across the street.
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@jon-nyc said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
What assertion is erroneous? From what I read yesterday (admittedly skimmed) the government didn’t claim anything inconsistent with that. They said all but 10s of the video was available before sentencing. They didn’t claim it was available before the plea.
How does additional video help a defense, anyway? I mean, if there’s video of you committing crimes at t1, how is other video showing you not committing crimes at t2 exculpatory?
I agree.
For example, a video shows a car hijacking occurring. If you at the video before the car hijacking, it shows the hijacker helping an old lady across the street.
@taiwan_girl said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
@jon-nyc said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
What assertion is erroneous? From what I read yesterday (admittedly skimmed) the government didn’t claim anything inconsistent with that. They said all but 10s of the video was available before sentencing. They didn’t claim it was available before the plea.
How does additional video help a defense, anyway? I mean, if there’s video of you committing crimes at t1, how is other video showing you not committing crimes at t2 exculpatory?
I agree.
For example, a video shows a car hijacking occurring. If you at the video before the car hijacking, it shows the hijacker helping an old lady across the street.
Yes, but this video shows the car owner giving the keys to the hijacker.
And then helping him fill up the gas tank.
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Chansley is released 14 months early
The so-called 'QAnon Shaman' who pleaded guilty to storming the US Capitol on January 6 has been released from prison to a halfway house 14 months early, in an apparent reduction for good behavior.
Jacob Chansley, 35, pleaded guilty in September 2021 to civil disorder and violent entry to the Capitol, among other charges, and was later sentenced to 41 months in federal prison.
As of Thursday, Bureau of Prison (BOP) records showed, and his former attorney confirmed in a statement to DailyMail.com, that Chansley was in a Phoenix-area halfway house after serving just under 27 months in prison total.
Chansley's release comes weeks after his former attorney demanded he be freed in light of new video from the Capitol riot, but his move to the halfway house appears to be unconnected, a former federal prosecutor who was not part of the case told DailyMail.com.
Though the reason for Chansley's transfer is unclear, the former prosecutor said it was doubtful public pressure played a role, noting the move appears 'kind of routine' under BOP guidelines for good-behavior reductions and re-entry programs.
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Basically, he's a bit of a nutter. Hopefully they don't let him buy any guns.
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Is there anything Tucker can't do?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
@Jolly said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
Is there anything Tucker can't do?
Shut up?
Do you think they would have let this guy out early without the tapes on Tucker's show?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
@Jolly said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
Is there anything Tucker can't do?
Shut up?
Do you think they would have let this guy out early without the tapes on Tucker's show?
@Jolly said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
Do you think they would have let this guy out early without the tapes on Tucker's show?
I haven't looked into the details and policies, but the word is that such a release is within the standards of the DOJ. Good behavior, etc.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
@Jolly said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
Is there anything Tucker can't do?
Shut up?
Do you think they would have let this guy out early without the tapes on Tucker's show?
@Jolly said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
@Jolly said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
Is there anything Tucker can't do?
Shut up?
Do you think they would have let this guy out early without the tapes on Tucker's show?
I really have no idea. The guy clearly has a few screws loose. Hopefully he'll get some help.
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@Jolly said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
Do you think they would have let this guy out early without the tapes on Tucker's show?
I haven't looked into the details and policies, but the word is that such a release is within the standards of the DOJ. Good behavior, etc.
@George-K said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
@Jolly said in Chansley's Lawyer Speaks:
Do you think they would have let this guy out early without the tapes on Tucker's show?
I haven't looked into the details and policies, but the word is that such a release is within the standards of the DOJ. Good behavior, etc.
Within standards, perhaps.
But have you seen any leniency in any charges or sentencing for Jan 6 folks?
This didn't pass the sniff test...
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Let me make something CLEAR.
The videos released and played on Fox News DID NOT play a role in any "early release" for Jake Chansely.
Al Watkins claiming that to be the case is FALSE and is Watkins to continuing to deflect blame away from himself for his horrible work.
Jake's sentence was 42 months.
The final 6 months are ALWAYS in a Halfway House by BOP police. So total custodial time was going to be 36 months.
But there are programs in BOP that allow a prisoner to earn credit on his sentence beyond "Good Time" credit.
Jake took advantage of those opportunities.
He was arrested in Jan 2021, and was detained the entire time. He served 26+ months in custody.
When I first spoke with him in Nov. 2021, I told him his release date was likely Feb. 2023.
He thought it would be early 2024.
Al Watkins never explained to him how custodial time calculations work.
Jake was released on exactly the time frame that I predicted to him, and the slight delay was only from getting some paperwork processed internal to BOP to give him credit for a program he completed.
We have known the release date for a period of time, but kept it quiet so as to not have a crowd show up at either the BOP facility or the Halfway House.
Al Watkins deserves NO CREDIT nor is he absolved of his failures while representing Jake.
