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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 14:13 last edited by
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    We just finished installing a pretty extensive paver patio. So I’m supposed to wait 6-8 weeks to seal the pavers. I don’t want to wait 6 weeks to start grilling. Do you think it would be fine to put down a piece of plywood down for a few hours while grilling, then remove the plywood after I’m done? I use charcoal, so want to protect the pavers until they are sealed…

    The Brad

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      Mik
      wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 14:15 last edited by
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      Sure.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
        wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 14:27 last edited by
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        I agree.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 14:39 last edited by
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          Actually just read that our particular pavers recommend waiting 12 months…

          So I’m going to just use the deck and clean like heck over the first year… I specifically laid out the onyx pavers in a block for the grill specifically for potential grease and charcoal stains…

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 14:40 last edited by
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              Jolly
              wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 14:40 last edited by
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              If the music biz thing falls through, you do really nice patio work...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Horace
                wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 14:45 last edited by
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                Looks great.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  22 Mar 2023, 14:40

                  If the music biz thing falls through, you do really nice patio work...

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 14:59 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Paver patio question:

                  If the music biz thing falls through, you do really nice patio work...

                  Lucas and I built the retaining wall two years ago and dug out the entire yard (10”… 6” for crush, 2” for paver base, 2” for pavers)… We hauled the dirt by wheelbarrow about 1/5 of a mile down to the woods between our townhouses and the nature preserve… the cost of getting rid of dirt in Loudoun is ridiculous… We also hauled and put down about 3 cubic yards of crush and graded… then I ran out of time… Professional crew did the rest (though they did let me lay some of the pavers and play with the gas powered compactor… I had used a hand compactor for most of the work Luke and I did… That thing was nice…)

                  So Luke and I did the grunt work and the professionals get the glory…In all fairness, my wall was kind of off and made their lives a little more difficult…D0C086BF-8A5B-4600-9CCE-83636166997D.jpeg

                  That wall is now only showing 10”, but it originally showed 18” with another 12” submerged. Because I am slightly anal retentive, I also dropped rebar every 4ft. I feel sorry for the poor bastard that has to remove that wall in the future. But I put in a pretty good drainage and pressure relief system l, so they hopefully won’t need to for a very long time…

                  The Brad

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 15:01 last edited by
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                    Show me your grill and I might have a better suggestion.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      22 Mar 2023, 15:01

                      Show me your grill and I might have a better suggestion.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 15:12 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in Paver patio question:

                      Show me your grill and I might have a better suggestion.

                      It’s buried, but one of these…

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                      Planning on adding on a barrel smoker next month. Smokey Joe or a Weber Bullet.

                      The Brad

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 15:14 last edited by
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                        I have the 22". You really shouldn't have any debris coming off a Weber One Touch.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 15:14 last edited by
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                          I put down a bunch of pavers a couple years ago, but never sealed them. I never even thought about it.

                          So, I just googled around about this.

                          It is unanimous among guys who sell sealant or sealing services that pavers must be sealed, some insist they should be sealed right away.

                          Maybe I'll seal them, maybe not. The pavers are used in a garden path and I might like a little natural patina.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 15:15 last edited by
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                            If you get a Slow-N-Sear you can smoke all you want on the kettle, especially the 26".

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              89th
                              wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 16:16 last edited by
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                              Yeah the patio looks great! Are the joints filled with polymetric sand? Waiting 6 weeks. 12 weeks. 52 weeks... No matter what there will be dirt, pollen, dust, debris when it comes time to seal and sealing has to be done, I believe, when it's very dry before and after (aka no rain). Anyway, not helpful.... good luck. If worried about grill-related spills, you could always put a small tarp below the grill until you're ready to seal.

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                                22 Mar 2023, 15:15

                                If you get a Slow-N-Sear you can smoke all you want on the kettle, especially the 26".

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 16:28 last edited by
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                                @Mik said in Paver patio question:

                                If you get a Slow-N-Sear you can smoke all you want on the kettle, especially the 26".

                                Need more space… and zones…

                                The Brad

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 17:40 last edited by
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                                  If I can do a packer brisket on my PK, you can surely do it on a 26 kettle.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • M Mik
                                    22 Mar 2023, 17:40

                                    If I can do a packer brisket on my PK, you can surely do it on a 26 kettle.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 19:39 last edited by
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                                    @Mik said in Paver patio question:

                                    If I can do a packer brisket on my PK, you can surely do it on a 26 kettle.

                                    See, you have a 2nd grill… (And I do like the PK, sooo many choices….)

                                    What I can’t do on the Weber is grill some brats and veggies for lunch while smoking that brisket for dinner… I can’t be grilling pineapple while smoking 2 racks of rib and roasting 6 ears of corn and a pan of drip pan potatoes… And I can never smoke three racks of ribs that are hanging over the coals for 6 hours while also grilling burgers, hot dogs and various other stuff…

                                    It’s one thing to cook for me, Karla, and Finley… but add on Lucas, his girlfriend, maybe 1-2 of their friends, and maybe Karla and I have a couple of friends over? Need more surface and more temperature zones…

                                    The Brad

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 21:54 last edited by Mik
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                                      I have 3 if you count my Broil King gasser. But I have a bigger area for them and a half acre yard.
                                      If you really thing you will be smoking and grilling at the same time you will need another unit. I'd suggest a good gas grill or a pellet smoker. Easy peasy.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 23:38 last edited by
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                                        Maybe an offset smoker?

                                        https://www.foodfirefriends.com/best-offset-smoker/

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 23:53 last edited by
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                                          Definitely if you want the best outcome and smoke profile, but it’s a commitment. You have to add a split every 45 minutes or so.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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