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Freezes and layoffs

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #38

    Of course it is.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      taiwan_girl
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      #39

      As I have asked before, what do you people use to measure the US economy?

      If it is layoffs at Dell, maybe it is not doing so well.
      If it is unemployment rate, maybe it is doing well.

      I am sure if President Trump were in office, the comment about "the economy doing fine. Donald will tell us that in the SOTU address" would have come from @Axtremus and @Jolly would have responded with the January jobs report. 555

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        As I have asked before, what do you people use to measure the US economy?

        If it is layoffs at Dell, maybe it is not doing so well.
        If it is unemployment rate, maybe it is doing well.

        I am sure if President Trump were in office, the comment about "the economy doing fine. Donald will tell us that in the SOTU address" would have come from @Axtremus and @Jolly would have responded with the January jobs report. 555

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        #40

        @taiwan_girl said in Freezes and layoffs:

        As I have asked before, what do you people use to measure the US economy?

        If it is layoffs at Dell, maybe it is not doing so well.
        If it is unemployment rate, maybe it is doing well.

        I am sure if President Trump were in office, the comment about "the economy doing fine. Donald will tell us that in the SOTU address" would have come from @Axtremus and @Jolly would have responded with the January jobs report. 555

        I'll be absolutely fucking amazed if we don't have sustained double-digit employment shrinkage in the next 5 years. I'm not an economist and I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I don't see how we're going to avoid it. I'd love to be wrong, though.

        Please love yourself.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #41

          Tell that to the kiosk at McDonald's.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Tell that to the kiosk at McDonald's.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #42

            @Jolly said in Freezes and layoffs:

            Tell that to the kiosk at McDonald's.

            @Jolly said in Freezes and layoffs:

            Tell that to the kiosk at McDonald's.

            Can't. Might not be able to afford it.

            Please love yourself.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #43

              Yahoo to lay off 20%

              https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/09/tech/yahoo-layoffs/index.html

              Yahoo still exists? Who knew?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #44

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  #45

                  Not sure what I love more:

                  • The letter clearly says its confidential and internal only
                  • A CEO who uses lowercase initials to sign an important letter
                  • The phrase "...we need to take cost out of everything we do.... just like we did with safety..." 🤣
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                  • George KG George K

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    @George-K said in Freezes and layoffs:

                    EV's FTW!

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      WASHINGTON, Jan 4 (Reuters) - Japanese automaker Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) outsold General Motors Co (GM.N) in the United States in 2021, marking the first time the Detroit automaker has not led U.S. auto sales since 1931.

                      Toyota sold 2.332 million vehicles in the United States in 2021, compared to 2.218 million for General Motors, the automakers said Tuesday.

                      When I worked at GM we were on the Fortune 1 list.

                      Since I left, things have changed.

                      https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/after-90-years-top-gm-is-no-longer-no-1-automaker-america-2022-01-04/

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                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                        #48

                        https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jobless-claims-tumble-to-192-000-and-show-no-sign-of-rising-layoffs-a2a78aa2
                        ...
                        The number of Americans who applied for unemployment benefits last week sank to 192,000 and returned close to historic lows, suggesting that layoffs in the U.S. remain quite low despite more stress on the economy.
                        ...

                        Government data: https://www.dol.gov/ui/data.pdf?mod=ANLink

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #49

                          Amazon to cut 9,000 more.

                          https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-to-cut-9-000-more-jobs-after-earlier-layoffs-234c3da7?mod=djem10point

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            #50

                            7,000 at Disney and ESPN...

                            https://nypost.com/2023/03/20/espn-layoffs-are-coming-and-nearly-everyone-is-vulnerable/

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Jolly
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                              #51

                              10% at Oracle...

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/oracle-cerner-reportedly-starts-another-round-of-layoffs/ar-AA18RNFL

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                #52

                                Over 121,000 this year in tech:

                                https://www.yahoo.com/news/comprehensive-list-2023-tech-layoffs-160908785.html

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #53

                                  I wonder if they’re trying to get ahead of AI layoffs. The more they lay off now, the fewer they need to lay off later.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

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                                    @Jolly said in Freezes and layoffs:

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                                    Bears repeating.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      I wonder if they’re trying to get ahead of AI layoffs. The more they lay off now, the fewer they need to lay off later.

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                                      #55

                                      @Horace said in Freezes and layoffs:

                                      I wonder if they’re trying to get ahead of AI layoffs. The more they lay off now, the fewer they need to lay off later.

                                      I would doubt it. These things take a lot of time for large companies to figure out and sign off on. Total speculation, but I think we'll officially be in the shit due to AI by the end of this year.

                                      I'm so glad our government is working hard on a solution to this.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jobless-claims-tumble-to-192-000-and-show-no-sign-of-rising-layoffs-a2a78aa2
                                        ...
                                        The number of Americans who applied for unemployment benefits last week sank to 192,000 and returned close to historic lows, suggesting that layoffs in the U.S. remain quite low despite more stress on the economy.
                                        ...

                                        Government data: https://www.dol.gov/ui/data.pdf?mod=ANLink

                                        JollyJ Offline
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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @Axtremus said in Freezes and layoffs:

                                        https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jobless-claims-tumble-to-192-000-and-show-no-sign-of-rising-layoffs-a2a78aa2
                                        ...
                                        The number of Americans who applied for unemployment benefits last week sank to 192,000 and returned close to historic lows, suggesting that layoffs in the U.S. remain quite low despite more stress on the economy.
                                        ...

                                        Government data: https://www.dol.gov/ui/data.pdf?mod=ANLink

                                        I'm sure Ax will chime in just any second, with new data points to buttress the argument that the economy is doing well.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @Axtremus said in Freezes and layoffs:

                                          https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jobless-claims-tumble-to-192-000-and-show-no-sign-of-rising-layoffs-a2a78aa2
                                          ...
                                          The number of Americans who applied for unemployment benefits last week sank to 192,000 and returned close to historic lows, suggesting that layoffs in the U.S. remain quite low despite more stress on the economy.
                                          ...

                                          Government data: https://www.dol.gov/ui/data.pdf?mod=ANLink

                                          I'm sure Ax will chime in just any second, with new data points to buttress the argument that the economy is doing well.

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                                          Axtremus
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                                          #57

                                          @Jolly https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/layoff-workers-how-are-they-doing/

                                          "Most laid-off workers today are quickly finding new jobs, survey shows"
                                          ...

                                          You see high profile layoffs in headlines, yet the unemployment rate stays historically low. Try not to confuse anecdotes with statistics.

                                          If you really like anecdotes, try checking with your local hospitals, restaurants, schools, or just local employers in general to see if they are still facing labor shortage and/or increasing wage pressures, then compare that with the high profile layoff headlines you read in the news.

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