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Will TuCa change the narrative?

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

    I’d have preferred for the committee to have been bipartisan ...

    There were multiple offers to make the Jan.6 investigation bi-partisan, but McCarthy rejected them:

    https://www.npr.org/2021/05/18/997836874/top-house-republican-opposes-bipartisan-commission-to-probe-capitol-riot

    https://www.newsweek.com/pelosi-rejects-mccarthy-nominations-banks-jordan-jan-6-commission-1611930

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    @Axtremus said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

    There were multiple offers to make the Jan.6 investigation bi-partisan, but McCarthy rejected them:

    Tradition has been that the minority leader gets to pick who sits on such committees. Pelosi broke that tradition. She wanted people sympathetic to her cause sitting at the show trial.

    @89th said:

    I have no problem with the Jan 6 committee selecting footage needed to prove their case that what some folks did on that day was criminal. Or maybe the Jan 6 committee was needed to balance out the Tucker Carlsons of the world who think the protestors innocently queued up to take a tour of the rotunda. (his words, not mine)

    You got that exactly backward. As Carlson pointed out the Jan 6 committee presented highly edited (see Hawley) and produced (see sound effects) videos to make its case. Here, Carlson is responding to the case presented by the committee. It was just as partisan and skewed as his was (see Sicknick).

    As McCarthy points out, a legitimate investigation would have involved the presentation of adversarial testimony. Carlson provided that.

    Again, Carlson is a partisan and a muckraker. It would have served his case better had the videos been released to a different party, because giving it to him immediately raises the specter of "CARLSON!"

    (insert @Doctor-Phibes pic of Carlson here: ______________)

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      #41

      Actually, the Jan.6 committee was bi-partisan due to Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger's presence.

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      • George KG George K

        @Axtremus said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

        There were multiple offers to make the Jan.6 investigation bi-partisan, but McCarthy rejected them:

        Tradition has been that the minority leader gets to pick who sits on such committees. Pelosi broke that tradition. She wanted people sympathetic to her cause sitting at the show trial.

        @89th said:

        I have no problem with the Jan 6 committee selecting footage needed to prove their case that what some folks did on that day was criminal. Or maybe the Jan 6 committee was needed to balance out the Tucker Carlsons of the world who think the protestors innocently queued up to take a tour of the rotunda. (his words, not mine)

        You got that exactly backward. As Carlson pointed out the Jan 6 committee presented highly edited (see Hawley) and produced (see sound effects) videos to make its case. Here, Carlson is responding to the case presented by the committee. It was just as partisan and skewed as his was (see Sicknick).

        As McCarthy points out, a legitimate investigation would have involved the presentation of adversarial testimony. Carlson provided that.

        Again, Carlson is a partisan and a muckraker. It would have served his case better had the videos been released to a different party, because giving it to him immediately raises the specter of "CARLSON!"

        (insert @Doctor-Phibes pic of Carlson here: ______________)

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        @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

        As McCarthy points out, a legitimate investigation would have involved the presentation of adversarial testimony. Carlson provided that.

        I agree with that, although... and maybe just me... I thought it was known that protestors were allowed to roam free for a period after the original invasion. Often I think about the folks praying in the house chambers without any cops near them. I presumed the cops, at that point, were focused on keeping the situation as-is, knowing these folks would be charged with crimes.

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        • George KG George K

          @Axtremus said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

          There were multiple offers to make the Jan.6 investigation bi-partisan, but McCarthy rejected them:

          Tradition has been that the minority leader gets to pick who sits on such committees. Pelosi broke that tradition. She wanted people sympathetic to her cause sitting at the show trial.

          @89th said:

          I have no problem with the Jan 6 committee selecting footage needed to prove their case that what some folks did on that day was criminal. Or maybe the Jan 6 committee was needed to balance out the Tucker Carlsons of the world who think the protestors innocently queued up to take a tour of the rotunda. (his words, not mine)

          You got that exactly backward. As Carlson pointed out the Jan 6 committee presented highly edited (see Hawley) and produced (see sound effects) videos to make its case. Here, Carlson is responding to the case presented by the committee. It was just as partisan and skewed as his was (see Sicknick).

          As McCarthy points out, a legitimate investigation would have involved the presentation of adversarial testimony. Carlson provided that.

          Again, Carlson is a partisan and a muckraker. It would have served his case better had the videos been released to a different party, because giving it to him immediately raises the specter of "CARLSON!"

          (insert @Doctor-Phibes pic of Carlson here: ______________)

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          @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

          Again, Carlson is a partisan and a muckraker. It would have served his case better had the videos been released to a different party, because giving it to him immediately raises the specter of "CARLSON!"
          (insert @Doctor-Phibes pic of Carlson here: ______________)

          If you insist...

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          I was only joking

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            Actually, the Jan.6 committee was bi-partisan due to Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger's presence.

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            @Axtremus said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

            was bi-partisan due to Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger's presence

            Only in the sense that they were (cough) members of the GOP.

            They were picked by Pelosi, not by the leader of their party.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • CopperC Copper

              I think he has done a nice job with the video so far.

              The video shows the guy with the horns being escorted all over the Capitol by a couple Capitol police. They open doors for him and escort him all over the place including into the Chambers.

              He was treated like an honored guest.

              So far he has shown that virtually everything said by the democrats about the events of 1/6 was a lie. He probably has set a record for using the word "lie" tonight.

              As LD points out, so what?

              So, the narratives won't change, the lies will be repeated and celebrated.

              The deadly insurrection never happened.

              A few doofusses taking selfies, that is about it.

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              #45

              @Copper

              So, the narratives won't change, the lies will be repeated and celebrated.

              The deadly insurrection never happened.

              A few doofusses taking selfies, that is about it.

              You keep repeating that over and over.

              Appears to me you enjoy celebrating it as if it were a revelation from above.

              That or you’re trying to be funny.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @Copper

                So, the narratives won't change, the lies will be repeated and celebrated.

                The deadly insurrection never happened.

                A few doofusses taking selfies, that is about it.

                You keep repeating that over and over.

                Appears to me you enjoy celebrating it as if it were a revelation from above.

                That or you’re trying to be funny.

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                #46

                @Renauda said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                @Copper

                So, the narratives won't change, the lies will be repeated and celebrated.

                The deadly insurrection never happened.

                A few doofusses taking selfies, that is about it.

                You keep repeating that over and over.

                Appears to me you enjoy celebrating it as if it were a revelation from above.

                That or you’re trying to be funny.

                Bless your heart.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Actually, the Jan.6 committee was bi-partisan due to Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger's presence.

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                  #47

                  @Axtremus said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                  Actually, the Jan.6 committee was bi-partisan due to Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger's presence.

                  Can you not read? See George's comment.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @Copper

                    So, the narratives won't change, the lies will be repeated and celebrated.

                    The deadly insurrection never happened.

                    A few doofusses taking selfies, that is about it.

                    You keep repeating that over and over.

                    Appears to me you enjoy celebrating it as if it were a revelation from above.

                    That or you’re trying to be funny.

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                    Jolly
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                    #48

                    @Renauda said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                    @Copper

                    So, the narratives won't change, the lies will be repeated and celebrated.

                    The deadly insurrection never happened.

                    A few doofusses taking selfies, that is about it.

                    You keep repeating that over and over.

                    Appears to me you enjoy celebrating it as if it were a revelation from above.

                    That or you’re trying to be funny.

                    Hmmm....Trucker's Strike.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Renauda said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                      @Copper

                      So, the narratives won't change, the lies will be repeated and celebrated.

                      The deadly insurrection never happened.

                      A few doofusses taking selfies, that is about it.

                      You keep repeating that over and over.

                      Appears to me you enjoy celebrating it as if it were a revelation from above.

                      That or you’re trying to be funny.

                      Hmmm....Trucker's Strike.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                      #49

                      @Jolly

                      What about it?

                      It was appropriately brought to an end by Parliament and combined law enforcement.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @Jolly

                        What about it?

                        It was appropriately brought to an end by Parliament and combined law enforcement.

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                        Jolly
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                        @Renauda said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                        @Jolly

                        What about it?

                        It was appropriately brought to an end by Parliament and combined law enforcement.

                        I seem to remember you telling all your South of the Border friends to MYOB. 😁

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Axtremus said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                          was bi-partisan due to Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger's presence

                          Only in the sense that they were (cough) members of the GOP.

                          They were picked by Pelosi, not by the leader of their party.

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                          @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                          @Axtremus said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                          was bi-partisan due to Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger's presence

                          Only in the sense that they were (cough) members of the GOP.

                          They were picked by Pelosi, not by the leader of their party.

                          Cheney and Kinzinger had to volunteer or otherwise agree to be in the committee. Pelosi could not force their involvement against their will. The Republicans (at least two of them) agreed to serve in the committee.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @Renauda said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                            @Jolly

                            What about it?

                            It was appropriately brought to an end by Parliament and combined law enforcement.

                            I seem to remember you telling all your South of the Border friends to MYOB. 😁

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                            Renauda
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                            #52

                            @Jolly

                            I seem to remember you telling all your South of the Border friends to MYOB. 😁

                            Indeed and right you are, because you doofuses were listening to and believing lock, stock and barrel what that fucker Tucker had to say about was happening here and getting it all wrong.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • RenaudaR Renauda

                              @Jolly

                              I seem to remember you telling all your South of the Border friends to MYOB. 😁

                              Indeed and right you are, because you doofuses were listening to and believing lock, stock and barrel what that fucker Tucker had to say about was happening here and getting it all wrong.

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                              Jolly
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                              @Renauda said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                              @Jolly

                              I seem to remember you telling all your South of the Border friends to MYOB. 😁

                              Indeed and right you are, because you doofuses were listening to and believing lock, stock and barrel what that fucker Tucker had to say about was happening here and getting it all wrong.

                              Personally, I don't care if you wish to wade hip-deep into the blood sport of American politics. But occasionally, retrospection is necessary to prevent future mistakes. 😛

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Renauda said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                @Jolly

                                I seem to remember you telling all your South of the Border friends to MYOB. 😁

                                Indeed and right you are, because you doofuses were listening to and believing lock, stock and barrel what that fucker Tucker had to say about was happening here and getting it all wrong.

                                Personally, I don't care if you wish to wade hip-deep into the blood sport of American politics. But occasionally, retrospection is necessary to prevent future mistakes. 😛

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                                Renauda
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                                #54

                                @Jolly

                                Personally, I don't care if you wish to wade hip-deep into the blood sport of American politics.

                                Difficult not to when Rome is your closest neighbour.

                                But occasionally, retrospection is necessary to prevent future mistakes. 😛

                                What Carlson projects cannot be described as anything near retrospection let alone sober thought.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  #55

                                  Wasn't talking about Carson...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Wasn't talking about Carson...

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #56

                                    @Jolly

                                    Well, I am talking about Carlson the hysteria he was and continues to generate and Rome is indeed my closest neighbour.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Tonight, Tucker compared Police injuries during the 2020 riots vs January 6.

                                      There were more injuries in 2020. A lot more, according to records.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        #58

                                        180 in 2020 and 114 on 1/6

                                        It was something like that

                                        The response to that is, so what?

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                                        • CopperC Copper

                                          180 in 2020 and 114 on 1/6

                                          It was something like that

                                          The response to that is, so what?

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                                          @Copper said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                          180 in 2020 and 114 on 1/6

                                          It was something like that

                                          The response to that is, so what?

                                          His point was that where were the Congressional hearings on the 2020 riot? If 2020 was more violent, was it also not a threat to democracy?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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