Police Chase in Baltimore

[George K]

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Five people were injured when the two cars crashed into each other and then into a house on the corner of East North Avenue and North Wolfe Street. 54-year-old Alfred Fincher of Baltimore, a pedestrian, died in the crash.

The Independent Investigations Division continues to investigate the circumstances of the fatal crash.

Baltimore Police says the car they were chasing was a stolen vehicle.

[Axtremus]

Dang, not even Hollywood has imagined a crash scene like this. Very much hope that the innocent bystanders are not hurt.

[LuFins Dad]

I’m staying in the Inner Harbor in Baltimore. Was woken up by sirens 3 times last night…

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

I’m staying in the Inner Harbor in Baltimore. Was woken up by sirens 3 times last night…

Slow night.

[George K]

@Axtremus said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

Very much hope that the innocent bystanders are not hurt.

The pedestrian was killed. You can see him at the corner of the building just before impact.

[Jolly]

Murder 2.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Jolly said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

Murder 2.

It's Baltimore, don't hold your breath.

BTW, I pass through that intersection at night about every month or so.

[Renauda]

@George-K

Made me think of a rag doll.

Talk about being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[taiwan_girl]

@George-K said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

@Axtremus said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

Very much hope that the innocent bystanders are not hurt.

The pedestrian was killed. You can see him at the corner of the building just before impact.

Yeah, I saw that!!! Wow!!! Feel bad for him.

I know that US cities have been decreasing chasing of cars because things like that happen.

But if you dont chase cars, does that mean the criminals are more likely to do bad things? But if you do chase cars, innocent people get hurt and injured.

No easy choice.

[Catseye3]

@taiwan_girl said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

But if you dont chase cars, does that mean the criminals are more likely to do bad things?

Let 'em. Is a life worth less than an escaping speeding car? Tomorrow's another day.

[Jolly]

Nah. You run, we shoot. You crash or cause others to crash, you're criminally liable.

Jacking a car worth your life or 25 years in the pen?

[Catseye3]

@Jolly said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

Jacking a car worth your life or 25 years in the pen?

What if it costs a stranger his life?

[Jolly]

@Catseye3 said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

@Jolly said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

Jacking a car worth your life or 25 years in the pen?

What if it costs a stranger his life?

It did.

But, would you rather see car theft like Chicago?

[Catseye3]

@Jolly said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

would you rather see car theft like Chicago?

Not sure I understand the question. I'd rather see the dead pedestrian alive and the car gone, if that's what you're asking.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Catseye3 said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

@Jolly said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

would you rather see car theft like Chicago?

Not sure I understand the question. I'd rather see the dead pedestrian alive and the car gone, if that's what you're asking.

You seem to be assuming that letting carjackers just drive off is generally safer. I don't know why you would assume that.

[Catseye3]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

You seem to be assuming that letting carjackers just drive off is generally safer.

I don't assume that. If this victim hadn't been killed, another one could have been. Who can say? I'm saying that police chases amid populated areas are dangerous, often to people who have nothing to do with the people directly involved.

And letting carjackers "just drive off" isn't quite the connotation I'm driving at. It's more a matter of public safety and not haring off at speed and risking lives over a stolen car.

There have to be better methods. Slower pursuit with more police cars? Drones?

[Aqua Letifer]

@Catseye3 said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

And letting carjackers "just drive off" isn't quite the connotation I'm driving at. It's more a matter of public safety and not haring off at speed and risking lives over a stolen car.

There have to be better methods. Slower pursuit with more police cars? Drones?

Yeah okay, try that out and get back to us about the results.

[George K]

@Catseye3 said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

What if it costs a stranger his life?

Felony murder.

Unlike most murder charges, felony murder doesn't require the intent to kill, only:

the intent to commit the underlying felony (the "predicate felony"),
and

that someone died as a result of the felony.

[Rainman]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

@Catseye3 said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

And letting carjackers "just drive off" isn't quite the connotation I'm driving at. It's more a matter of public safety and not haring off at speed and risking lives over a stolen car.

There have to be better methods. Slower pursuit with more police cars? Drones?

Yeah okay, try that out and get back to us about the results.

Yeah well, there should be some high-tech gadgetry that could rise to the occasion. Remote disable. Or better, remote redirect of exhaust into the cabin, doors and windows lock and cannot open trapping the bad guys, radio plays prerecording of what is happening, then hideous laughter, then the car fills up with boiling water slowly boiling the thieves while they scream in agony, then the boiling water runs down into the EV battery packs which short out and the whole damn thing blows up in a huge fireball, the bodies incinerated, nothing left just a stain on the roadway.

[Jolly]

@Catseye3 said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

@Jolly said in Police Chase in Baltimore:

would you rather see car theft like Chicago?

Not sure I understand the question. I'd rather see the dead pedestrian alive and the car gone, if that's what you're asking.

George might can provide actual stats, but car theft has doubled or tripled in Chicago. It's a result of lack of law enforcement and Lightfoot's policies.

Crime begats crime. The more we tolerate, the more it grows. And the more serious the crimes become.