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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #147

    Alex, I'll take Option 3.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #148

      Remember when the lab leak theory was all tin-foil-hat conspiracy stuff?

      Yeah...

      [Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Agency Now Says](https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a?mod=hp_lead_pos1

      The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress.

      The shift by the Energy Department, which previously was undecided on how the virus emerged, is noted in an update to a 2021 document by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s office.

      The new report highlights how different parts of the intelligence community have arrived at disparate judgments about the pandemic’s origin. The Energy Department now joins the Federal Bureau of Investigation in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory. Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.

      The Energy Department’s conclusion is the result of new intelligence and is significant because the agency has considerable scientific expertise and oversees a network of U.S. national laboratories, some of which conduct advanced biological research.

      The Energy Department made its judgment with “low confidence,” according to people who have read the classified report.

      The FBI previously came to the conclusion that the pandemic was likely the result of a lab leak in 2021 with “moderate confidence” and still holds to this view.)

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #149

        Why would the Department of Energy oversee biological research labs? And why would the Department of Energy have it’s own intelligence division?

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Why would the Department of Energy oversee biological research labs? And why would the Department of Energy have it’s own intelligence division?

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #150

          @LuFins-Dad

          DoE is in charge of the nuclear stockpile. One can imagine intelligence functions around that.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #151

            Anybody who had ever worked in even a Level 2 Biohazard Lab and wasn't trying to cover their ass or not trying to lose Fed or Chinese dollars, knew where the Wuhan Flu came from.

            The only questions were:

            1. Was it intentional?
            2. If not, how?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #152

              If not for COVID, I'd still be living in CA and going into the office five days a week. What a nightmare.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @LuFins-Dad

                DoE is in charge of the nuclear stockpile. One can imagine intelligence functions around that.

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #153

                @jon-nyc said in Lab Leak?:

                @LuFins-Dad

                DoE is in charge of the nuclear stockpile. One can imagine intelligence functions around that.

                Yep, I thought about that afterward, but still would have figured they would be working collaboratively with one of the Alphabet Agencies.

                The Brad

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  If not for COVID, I'd still be living in CA and going into the office five days a week. What a nightmare.

                  MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #154

                  @Horace said in Lab Leak?:

                  If not for COVID, I'd still be living in CA and going into the office five days a week. What a nightmare.

                  Lemons, meet lemonade.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #155

                    Didn’t Horace travel to China in October, 2019?

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @Horace said in Lab Leak?:

                      If not for COVID, I'd still be living in CA and going into the office five days a week. What a nightmare.

                      Lemons, meet lemonade.

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #156

                      @Mik said in Lab Leak?:

                      @Horace said in Lab Leak?:

                      If not for COVID, I'd still be living in CA and going into the office five days a week. What a nightmare.

                      Lemons, meet lemonade.

                      Part of my life coaching business is to ask my clients what the worst day of their lives was. They'll often refer to something horribly traumatic. Then I'll go back in my calendar and tell them something good that happened to me that day. Then, the healing begins.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @Mik said in Lab Leak?:

                        @Horace said in Lab Leak?:

                        If not for COVID, I'd still be living in CA and going into the office five days a week. What a nightmare.

                        Lemons, meet lemonade.

                        Part of my life coaching business is to ask my clients what the worst day of their lives was. They'll often refer to something horribly traumatic. Then I'll go back in my calendar and tell them something good that happened to me that day. Then, the healing begins.

                        MikM Offline
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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #157

                        @Horace you left out the reason for the healing was them whacking you with the desk lamp.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @jon-nyc said in Lab Leak?:

                          @LuFins-Dad

                          DoE is in charge of the nuclear stockpile. One can imagine intelligence functions around that.

                          Yep, I thought about that afterward, but still would have figured they would be working collaboratively with one of the Alphabet Agencies.

                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #158

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Lab Leak?:

                          @jon-nyc said in Lab Leak?:

                          @LuFins-Dad

                          DoE is in charge of the nuclear stockpile. One can imagine intelligence functions around that.

                          Yep, I thought about that afterward, but still would have figured they would be working collaboratively with one of the Alphabet Agencies.

                          That seems to not be the case as a rule. Just like every agency has its own enforcement division.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #159

                            Well, at least we can go back to eating bat sandwiches!

                            The Brad

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #160

                              FBI AgreesL

                              FBI Director Christopher Wray said Tuesday that the Covid pandemic was probably the result of a laboratory leak in China, providing the first public confirmation of the bureau’s classified judgment of how the virus that led to the deaths of nearly seven million people worldwide first emerged.

                              “The FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in Wuhan,” Mr. Wray told Fox News. “Here you are talking about a potential leak from a Chinese government-controlled lab.”

                              Mr. Wray added that the Chinese government has been trying to “thwart and obfuscate” the investigation that the Federal Bureau of Investigation, other parts of the U.S. government and foreign partners have been carrying out into the origin of the pandemic, but that the bureau’s work continues.

                              The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that the FBI had come to the conclusion with “moderate confidence” in 2021 that the Covid-19 pandemic was likely the result of an accidental lab leak and still holds to this view.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • JollyJ Offline
                                JollyJ Offline
                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #161

                                Okay...Why have they sat on this for so long?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #162

                                  https://nypost.com/2023/03/05/new-emails-show-fauci-commissioned-paper-to-disprove-wuhan-lab-leak-theory/

                                  New emails uncovered by House Republicans probing the COVID-19 pandemic reveal the deceptive nature of Dr. Anthony Fauci.

                                  They show he “prompted” or commissioned — and had final approval on — a scientific paper written specifically in February 2020 to disprove the theory that the virus leaked from a lab in Wuhan, China.

                                  Eight weeks later, Fauci stood at a White House press conference alongside President Donald Trump and cited that paper as evidence that the lab leak theory was implausible while pretending it had nothing to do with him and he did not know the authors.

                                  “There was a study recently,” he told reporters on April 17, 2020, when asked if the virus could have come from a Chinese lab, “where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences … in bats as they evolve and the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human.

                                  “So, the paper will be available. I don’t have the authors right now, but we can make it available to you.”

                                  Read the committee's report here.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    https://nypost.com/2023/03/05/new-emails-show-fauci-commissioned-paper-to-disprove-wuhan-lab-leak-theory/

                                    New emails uncovered by House Republicans probing the COVID-19 pandemic reveal the deceptive nature of Dr. Anthony Fauci.

                                    They show he “prompted” or commissioned — and had final approval on — a scientific paper written specifically in February 2020 to disprove the theory that the virus leaked from a lab in Wuhan, China.

                                    Eight weeks later, Fauci stood at a White House press conference alongside President Donald Trump and cited that paper as evidence that the lab leak theory was implausible while pretending it had nothing to do with him and he did not know the authors.

                                    “There was a study recently,” he told reporters on April 17, 2020, when asked if the virus could have come from a Chinese lab, “where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences … in bats as they evolve and the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human.

                                    “So, the paper will be available. I don’t have the authors right now, but we can make it available to you.”

                                    Read the committee's report here.

                                    LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #163

                                    @George-K said in Lab Leak?:

                                    https://nypost.com/2023/03/05/new-emails-show-fauci-commissioned-paper-to-disprove-wuhan-lab-leak-theory/

                                    New emails uncovered by House Republicans probing the COVID-19 pandemic reveal the deceptive nature of Dr. Anthony Fauci.

                                    They show he “prompted” or commissioned — and had final approval on — a scientific paper written specifically in February 2020 to disprove the theory that the virus leaked from a lab in Wuhan, China.

                                    Eight weeks later, Fauci stood at a White House press conference alongside President Donald Trump and cited that paper as evidence that the lab leak theory was implausible while pretending it had nothing to do with him and he did not know the authors.

                                    “There was a study recently,” he told reporters on April 17, 2020, when asked if the virus could have come from a Chinese lab, “where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences … in bats as they evolve and the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human.

                                    “So, the paper will be available. I don’t have the authors right now, but we can make it available to you.”

                                    Read the committee's report here.

                                    Man, that story will be huge in three years when the legacy media acknowledges it…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • HoraceH Offline
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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #164

                                      It's almost like the "scientific expert" narrative is intentionally used to manipulate the credulous masses, making it difficult to decipher when and where real scientific experts come to real conclusions about anything having to do with politics.

                                      But those who question anything after a claim is made about a scientific conclusion, are still laughable idiots, just ask the left. Because people who believe what they're told to believe, are always the smart ones.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        https://nypost.com/2023/03/05/new-emails-show-fauci-commissioned-paper-to-disprove-wuhan-lab-leak-theory/

                                        New emails uncovered by House Republicans probing the COVID-19 pandemic reveal the deceptive nature of Dr. Anthony Fauci.

                                        They show he “prompted” or commissioned — and had final approval on — a scientific paper written specifically in February 2020 to disprove the theory that the virus leaked from a lab in Wuhan, China.

                                        Eight weeks later, Fauci stood at a White House press conference alongside President Donald Trump and cited that paper as evidence that the lab leak theory was implausible while pretending it had nothing to do with him and he did not know the authors.

                                        “There was a study recently,” he told reporters on April 17, 2020, when asked if the virus could have come from a Chinese lab, “where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences … in bats as they evolve and the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human.

                                        “So, the paper will be available. I don’t have the authors right now, but we can make it available to you.”

                                        Read the committee's report here.

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                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #165

                                        @George-K

                                        I wish they’d show us more than one half of a sentence with no context.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @George-K

                                          I wish they’d show us more than one half of a sentence with no context.

                                          MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
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                                          #166

                                          @jon-nyc said in Lab Leak?:

                                          @George-K

                                          I wish they’d show us more than one half of a sentence with no context.

                                          Such is the state of "journalism" today. Provide only what supports the reaction you seek.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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