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Is $200K enough?

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  • 8 89th
    23 Feb 2023, 13:37

    @LuFins-Dad Yes I suspect it's a combination of what you mentioned. Early retirement, divorce, maybe (as in my case) conversion to single-income for other reasons, maybe health?

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 23 Feb 2023, 13:52 last edited by
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    @89th said in Is $200K enough?:

    @LuFins-Dad Yes I suspect it's a combination of what you mentioned. Early retirement, divorce, maybe (as in my case) conversion to single-income for other reasons, maybe health?

    I don’t think too many households 55-64 are converting to single income households for the same reason you did, 89th…😉

    The Brad

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      23 Feb 2023, 13:52

      @89th said in Is $200K enough?:

      @LuFins-Dad Yes I suspect it's a combination of what you mentioned. Early retirement, divorce, maybe (as in my case) conversion to single-income for other reasons, maybe health?

      I don’t think too many households 55-64 are converting to single income households for the same reason you did, 89th…😉

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      89th
      wrote on 23 Feb 2023, 13:58 last edited by
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      @LuFins-Dad LOL true

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      • J Jolly
        23 Feb 2023, 13:13

        Down here, most would consider that a little better than good.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 23 Feb 2023, 14:02 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in Is $200K enough?:

        Down here, most would consider that a little better than good.

        And that’s the issue not addressed nearly well enough… Good enough for where? I could live like a king off of $200K a year in Southwestern, PA. And I mean like a king…Cleaning/Cooking staff, live in nanny, 5000 square foot home, etc…

        In Norrhern, VA? Not so much…

        The Brad

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 23 Feb 2023, 14:26 last edited by
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          Have not found the definition for "income" yet for that article. E.g., is it the AGI figures from US tax returns, is it Social Security wages or Medicare wages off your tax forms, does it account for employer sponsored/subsidized benefits (employer paid portion of medical insurance premiums), etc. ?

          Regardless, when you read the word "income" in this sort of discussion, what definition of "income" comes to your mind?

          For W2 employees, would that be your pre-tax, pre-deduction (for things like healthcare insurance premiums, retirement savings) income, post-tax income, or just the net take-home pay? Do you mentally add in (or deduct as the case may be) bank interests or investment dividends? Capital gains?

          For the self-employed, it may just get even more complicated.

          How about retirees? What definition comes to your mind when you read the term "household income"?

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            Copper
            wrote on 23 Feb 2023, 16:42 last edited by
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            I think $200K would be considered very good in these parts - almost rural southern Virginia.

            Half that would probably be considered at least good.

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              89th
              wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 13:12 last edited by
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              Somewhat related:

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              • 8 89th
                24 Feb 2023, 13:12

                Somewhat related:

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                George K
                wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 13:25 last edited by
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                @89th "Happiness with your body" peaks at 74?

                Woohoo! Almost there. Adonis, am I...

                ...at least to myself.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 14:07 last edited by
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                  I guess a Nobel prize winning discovery isn’t in the cards for me.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    24 Feb 2023, 14:07

                    I guess a Nobel prize winning discovery isn’t in the cards for me.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 14:13 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Is $200K enough?:

                    I guess a Nobel prize winning discovery isn’t in the cards for me.

                    I've got 6 months left, I'm gonna pwn the shit outta you.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 14:43 last edited by
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                      It was a privilege just to be nominated.

                      The Brad

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                        24 Feb 2023, 14:13

                        @jon-nyc said in Is $200K enough?:

                        I guess a Nobel prize winning discovery isn’t in the cards for me.

                        I've got 6 months left, I'm gonna pwn the shit outta you.

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                        89th
                        wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 14:47 last edited by
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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Is $200K enough?:

                        @jon-nyc said in Is $200K enough?:

                        I guess a Nobel prize winning discovery isn’t in the cards for me.

                        I've got 6 months left, I'm gonna pwn the shit outta you.

                        I only have 4 months left. Ugh, really ought to spend time proving out my perpetual motion machine. I still remember freshman year when Aqua told me my idea was impossible. Little does he know the machine hasn't stopped in 23 years! Hahahaha

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                        • 8 89th
                          24 Feb 2023, 14:47

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Is $200K enough?:

                          @jon-nyc said in Is $200K enough?:

                          I guess a Nobel prize winning discovery isn’t in the cards for me.

                          I've got 6 months left, I'm gonna pwn the shit outta you.

                          I only have 4 months left. Ugh, really ought to spend time proving out my perpetual motion machine. I still remember freshman year when Aqua told me my idea was impossible. Little does he know the machine hasn't stopped in 23 years! Hahahaha

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 14:52 last edited by
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                          @89th said in Is $200K enough?:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Is $200K enough?:

                          @jon-nyc said in Is $200K enough?:

                          I guess a Nobel prize winning discovery isn’t in the cards for me.

                          I've got 6 months left, I'm gonna pwn the shit outta you.

                          I only have 4 months left. Ugh, really ought to spend time proving out my perpetual motion machine. I still remember freshman year when Aqua told me my idea was impossible. Little does he know the machine hasn't stopped in 23 years! Hahahaha

                          Aqua is going to be so embarrassed.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            89th
                            wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 15:39 last edited by 89th
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                            Totally. You see, I placed a device in Papau New Guinea where gravity is the strongest on earth, what it does is a marble drops into a shoot that uses the extra strong gravity to accelerate its decent until it hits a ramp that shoots the ball back up and then back into the same shoot. This repeats over and over. The trick is I placed a small windmill of sorts that the ball hits and rotates the blades. The reduction of energy from the ball hitting the blade is less than the gravitational strength gained in this part of the world so the ball never slows down enough to stop. Therefore there is a net positive amount of energy produced each cycle. Then I placed 10 billion of these devices across the country, and placed them so that the wind produces from the first windmill generates actual wind to aid the windmill of the second loopty-loop device thereby increasing the net energy produced for the 2nd device. So on and so forth until the 5,001,618th device is able to run without a marble at all! So far this has generated enough power to create one bitcoin, which has since lost $50,000 in value since its creation.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 15:50 last edited by
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                              Cyber Rube Goldberg.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 15:52 last edited by
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                                Just put liquid nitrogen inside a steam machine and call it a day.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • 8 89th
                                  24 Feb 2023, 15:39

                                  Totally. You see, I placed a device in Papau New Guinea where gravity is the strongest on earth, what it does is a marble drops into a shoot that uses the extra strong gravity to accelerate its decent until it hits a ramp that shoots the ball back up and then back into the same shoot. This repeats over and over. The trick is I placed a small windmill of sorts that the ball hits and rotates the blades. The reduction of energy from the ball hitting the blade is less than the gravitational strength gained in this part of the world so the ball never slows down enough to stop. Therefore there is a net positive amount of energy produced each cycle. Then I placed 10 billion of these devices across the country, and placed them so that the wind produces from the first windmill generates actual wind to aid the windmill of the second loopty-loop device thereby increasing the net energy produced for the 2nd device. So on and so forth until the 5,001,618th device is able to run without a marble at all! So far this has generated enough power to create one bitcoin, which has since lost $50,000 in value since its creation.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 16:00 last edited by
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                                  @89th said in Is $200K enough?:

                                  Totally. You see, I placed a device in Papau New Guinea where gravity is the strongest on earth, what it does is a marble drops into a shoot that uses the extra strong gravity to accelerate its decent until it hits a ramp that shoots the ball back up and then back into the same shoot. This repeats over and over. The trick is I placed a small windmill of sorts that the ball hits and rotates the blades. The reduction of energy from the ball hitting the blade is less than the gravitational strength gained in this part of the world so the ball never slows down enough to stop. Therefore there is a net positive amount of energy produced each cycle. Then I placed 10 billion of these devices across the country, and placed them so that the wind produces from the first windmill generates actual wind to aid the windmill of the second loopty-loop device thereby increasing the net energy produced for the 2nd device. So on and so forth until the 5,001,618th device is able to run without a marble at all! So far this has generated enough power to create one bitcoin, which has since lost $50,000 in value since its creation.

                                  I invented that exact same thing probably a week or so before you did. See you in patent court.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • H Horace
                                    24 Feb 2023, 16:00

                                    @89th said in Is $200K enough?:

                                    Totally. You see, I placed a device in Papau New Guinea where gravity is the strongest on earth, what it does is a marble drops into a shoot that uses the extra strong gravity to accelerate its decent until it hits a ramp that shoots the ball back up and then back into the same shoot. This repeats over and over. The trick is I placed a small windmill of sorts that the ball hits and rotates the blades. The reduction of energy from the ball hitting the blade is less than the gravitational strength gained in this part of the world so the ball never slows down enough to stop. Therefore there is a net positive amount of energy produced each cycle. Then I placed 10 billion of these devices across the country, and placed them so that the wind produces from the first windmill generates actual wind to aid the windmill of the second loopty-loop device thereby increasing the net energy produced for the 2nd device. So on and so forth until the 5,001,618th device is able to run without a marble at all! So far this has generated enough power to create one bitcoin, which has since lost $50,000 in value since its creation.

                                    I invented that exact same thing probably a week or so before you did. See you in patent court.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 16:06 last edited by
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                                    @Horace said in Is $200K enough?:

                                    I invented that exact same thing probably a week or so before you did. See you in patent court.

                                    But did you file a patent application for the invention before he did?

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                                    • A Axtremus
                                      24 Feb 2023, 16:06

                                      @Horace said in Is $200K enough?:

                                      I invented that exact same thing probably a week or so before you did. See you in patent court.

                                      But did you file a patent application for the invention before he did?

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 16:17 last edited by
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                                      @Axtremus said in Is $200K enough?:

                                      @Horace said in Is $200K enough?:

                                      I invented that exact same thing probably a week or so before you did. See you in patent court.

                                      But did you file a patent application for the invention before he did?

                                      On advice of my lawyer, I am not at liberty to discuss details of pending litigation regarding this matter of an invention that 89th completely stole from me. It might prejudice jurors if they knew the truth of 89th's brazen theft of my ideas, so I cannot discuss the obvious and provable guilt of 89th in this pending litigation.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • H Horace
                                        24 Feb 2023, 16:17

                                        @Axtremus said in Is $200K enough?:

                                        @Horace said in Is $200K enough?:

                                        I invented that exact same thing probably a week or so before you did. See you in patent court.

                                        But did you file a patent application for the invention before he did?

                                        On advice of my lawyer, I am not at liberty to discuss details of pending litigation regarding this matter of an invention that 89th completely stole from me. It might prejudice jurors if they knew the truth of 89th's brazen theft of my ideas, so I cannot discuss the obvious and provable guilt of 89th in this pending litigation.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 24 Feb 2023, 16:30 last edited by
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                                        @Horace said in Is $200K enough?:

                                        @Axtremus said in Is $200K enough?:

                                        @Horace said in Is $200K enough?:

                                        I invented that exact same thing probably a week or so before you did. See you in patent court.

                                        But did you file a patent application for the invention before he did?

                                        On advice of my lawyer, I am not at liberty to discuss details of pending litigation regarding this matter of an invention that 89th completely stole from me. It might prejudice jurors if they knew the truth of 89th's brazen theft of my ideas, so I cannot discuss the obvious and provable guilt of 89th in this pending litigation.

                                        You should be fine if you can show that the other party derived his invention from you.

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