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  • George KG George K

    Again, I wonder, is he deliberately lying?

    Is he confabulating?

    Is he ignorant of the facts?

    Is he saying what his handlers tell him to say?

    I suppose a Venn diagram of these possibilities could be constructed.

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    kluurs
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    #180

    Again, I wonder, is he deliberately lying?

    Is he confabulating?

    Is he ignorant of the facts?

    Is he saying what his handlers tell him to say?

    I suppose a Venn diagram of these possibilities could be constructed.

    Like DJT, I think he says what he thinks will sound good. May be true. May be untrue. May not even make sense. Like the word "myth" - it isn't whether the myth is true. It matters if it is effective or ineffective. In the world of the internet, it only matters whether it was clicked or not.

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    • kluursK kluurs

      Again, I wonder, is he deliberately lying?

      Is he confabulating?

      Is he ignorant of the facts?

      Is he saying what his handlers tell him to say?

      I suppose a Venn diagram of these possibilities could be constructed.

      Like DJT, I think he says what he thinks will sound good. May be true. May be untrue. May not even make sense. Like the word "myth" - it isn't whether the myth is true. It matters if it is effective or ineffective. In the world of the internet, it only matters whether it was clicked or not.

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      George K
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      #181

      @kluurs said in Biden's Lies:

      Like DJT, I think he says what he thinks will sound good. May be true. May be untrue. May not even make sense.

      THat's absolutely correct.

      I just keep posting these here to get @89th 's goat. He pilloried DJT over and over about his "lies."

      By the way, and any major news outlet kept a scorecard of these yet? I'm sure that by the end of year 2, Trump had quite a list.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @kluurs said in Biden's Lies:

        Like DJT, I think he says what he thinks will sound good. May be true. May be untrue. May not even make sense.

        THat's absolutely correct.

        I just keep posting these here to get @89th 's goat. He pilloried DJT over and over about his "lies."

        By the way, and any major news outlet kept a scorecard of these yet? I'm sure that by the end of year 2, Trump had quite a list.

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        89th
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        #182

        @George-K Ha! I hadn't checked this thread in a while. The gun video earlier made me chuckle... even if he was right about an AR-15 being 5x faster, how does that change the ability for a victim to dodge the bullet? LOL

        Anyway, regarding his statement above, I guess Biden is technically right. Since July the "real earnings" chart (aka the wage growth compared to price growth) does show that wages have slightly outpaced inflation. See below. If you view the full clip, he says it's "over the last few months", but I know why it was edited out for clicks (including mine, LOL).

        That being said, wage growth isn't always a good thing. Those operational costs will be passed onto to the consumer.

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          #183

          Remarks by President Biden at a Delaware Veterans Summit

          You know, I — my dad, when I got elected Vice President, he said, “Joey, Uncle Frank fought in the Battle of the Bulge.” He was not feeling very well now — not because of the Battle of the Bulge. But he said, “And he won the Purple Heart. And he never received it. He never — he never got it. Do you think you could help him get it? We’ll surprise him.”

          So we got him the Purple Heart. He had won it in the Battle of the Bulge. And I remember he came over to the house, and I came out, and he said, “Present it to him, okay?” We had the family there.

          I said, “Uncle Frank, you won this. And I want to…” He said, “I don’t want the damn thing.” (Laughter.) No, I’m serious. He said, “I don’t want it.” I said, “What’s the matter, Uncle Frank? You earned it.” He said, “Yeah, but the others died. The others died. I lived. I don’t want it.”

          Just like a generation — this generation in Vietnam — excuse me, in — in Iraq.

          Biden became Vice President in 2009.

          His uncle Frank died in 1999.

          His father died in 2002.

          The Purple Heart?

          Frank Biden’s tombstone does not identify him as a Purple Heart honoree, nor does his obituary. A partial registry of known Purple Heart recipients also doesn’t note anyone by that name receiving the award, though that database is not comprehensive.

          The Post’s librarians could not locate prior references to Frank Biden receiving the Purple Heart, which recognizes wounded and killed soldiers, in the Nexis archive and the Factba.se repository of Joe Biden’s public statements also doesn’t contain prior references.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #184

            I'd stop voting for the motherfuckers if I were you.

            I know, you only had two choices, and they were both lying scumbags, so you were kind of stuck.

            Maybe you could ask the British to take over again? We're not particularly honest, but we sound a lot more sophisticated than your leaders. Boris can lie in ancient Greek.

            I was only joking

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              George K
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              #185

              Bumping, in anticipation of SOTU.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #186

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
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                  #187

                  "Iraq toxic burn pits...

                  I understand something about burn pits."

                  He came that close to the lie.

                  That close.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #188

                    Washington Post (!)

                    Fact-checking President Biden’s 2023 State of the Union address

                    "That’s misleading. "

                    "Left unsaid"

                    "being a bit slippery"

                    "telling half of the story"

                    "comparing apples and oranges"

                    "Biden misleadingly claims to have lowered the deficit"

                    "technically accurate but lacks context"

                    "These claim are the subject of dispute"

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      #189

                      In a nutshell....

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                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        In a nutshell....

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                        George K
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                        #190

                        @Doctor-Phibes so, in other words, you’re saying she’s right!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Doctor-Phibes so, in other words, you’re saying she’s right!

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                          @George-K said in Biden's Lies:

                          @Doctor-Phibes so, in other words, you’re saying she’s right!

                          Alt right.

                          I was only joking

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                            Sometimes, The Resident doesn't even have to open his mouth to lie...

                            Listening to Bongino a bit today and he was talking about Biden's visit to Ukraine. For those that don't know, Bongino was a NYC cop and later a Secret Service agent (Presidential Protection Detail, Bush 43 and early Obama).

                            While he said Biden's visit was a gutsy move, he still thought it ill-advised from a security standpoint.

                            But what he did think was pure political theater was the reaction from Biden and his security staff when the air raid siren sounded. Biden's detail took no action. That means one of two things:

                            1. The detail did not know that was an air raid siren. That's simply ludicrous. They know. It ain't the movies, they wouldn't have manhandled the president, but they would have placed him quickly into a secure location.

                            2. The detail did know, because it was a set-up. Just a little bit of added theater to lend some drama and spice to the tv shot. That's why they didn't take any immediate action.

                            The number 2 possibility is what they call a lead pipe cinch.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Sometimes, The Resident doesn't even have to open his mouth to lie...

                              Listening to Bongino a bit today and he was talking about Biden's visit to Ukraine. For those that don't know, Bongino was a NYC cop and later a Secret Service agent (Presidential Protection Detail, Bush 43 and early Obama).

                              While he said Biden's visit was a gutsy move, he still thought it ill-advised from a security standpoint.

                              But what he did think was pure political theater was the reaction from Biden and his security staff when the air raid siren sounded. Biden's detail took no action. That means one of two things:

                              1. The detail did not know that was an air raid siren. That's simply ludicrous. They know. It ain't the movies, they wouldn't have manhandled the president, but they would have placed him quickly into a secure location.

                              2. The detail did know, because it was a set-up. Just a little bit of added theater to lend some drama and spice to the tv shot. That's why they didn't take any immediate action.

                              The number 2 possibility is what they call a lead pipe cinch.

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                              Horace
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                              @Jolly said in Biden's Lies:

                              Sometimes, The Resident doesn't even have to open his mouth to lie...

                              Listening to Bongino a bit today and he was talking about Biden's visit to Ukraine. For those that don't know, Bongino was a NYC cop and later a Secret Service agent (Presidential Protection Detail, Bush 43 and early Obama).

                              While he said Biden's visit was a gutsy move, he still thought it ill-advised from a security standpoint.

                              But what he did think was pure political theater was the reaction from Biden and his security staff when the air raid siren sounded. Biden's detail took no action. That means one of two things:

                              1. The detail did not know that was an air raid siren. That's simply ludicrous. They know. It ain't the movies, they wouldn't have manhandled the president, but they would have placed him quickly into a secure location.

                              2. The detail did know, because it was a set-up. Just a little bit of added theater to lend some drama and spice to the tv shot. That's why they didn't take any immediate action.

                              The number 2 possibility is what they call a lead pipe cinch.

                              Whomever’s idea it was, will probably still get a raise.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by George K
                                #194

                                So, this would have been 1956 or so.

                                Right....

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #195

                                  OMG. What a whopper.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    OMG. What a whopper.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @Mik said in Biden's Lies:

                                    OMG. What a whopper.

                                    That’s what Xe said!

                                    The Brad

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      OMG. What a whopper.

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                                      George K
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                                      @Mik said in Biden's Lies:

                                      OMG. What a whopper.

                                      He voted for DOMA, and a decade later said that marriage should be between a man and a woman.

                                      (btw, Obama said that too)

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #198

                                        The Brad

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          Yeah, he's full of shit all right.

                                          Full disclaimer: I was pretty homophobic in high school, too. I know, hard to believe. I was probably compensating for something or other.

                                          I was only joking

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