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Going out at the bottom

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #2

    I think if Payton had gone to Miami, Tom might have given it another shot. He can still play, which is utterly amazing. Most guys lose the deep ball and then their accuracy, somewhere around 40.

    I wonder...The 49ers have a really good team that may be a QB away...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #3

      This narrative where he chose football over his wife can't be right. That marriage was garbage to him, with or without football, obviously.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        #4

        I suspect the marriage was already headed down that road when he first announced retirement. When it was clear retirement was not going to save it, he decided he might as well keep playing.

        But that is just what makes sense to me. It may or may not be accurate.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
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          #5

          He made the right decision, the wisest decision. Something vital broke with his retirement-unretirement action. It is speculation on my part, but I think like many married people, he derived a lot of his strength from his other half, and when Gisele left she took an essential part of him with her. He hasn't been the same since his return; things haven't gone well for him.

          It is good he's going out the GOAT. He earned it.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • AxtremusA Away
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            Axtremus
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            #6

            I congratulate ‘ol Tom on his retirement from football.

            45 years may be “old” for American football but barely middle age for human life. Maybe he’ll spend more time with this family, volunteer, do philanthropy, do community service, coach youth football teams, advocate for the less fortunate, take adult education classes, go on spiritual quests, explore other gender identities, whatever makes him feel more fulfilled.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #7

              The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

              Yeah, GOAT.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                Yeah, GOAT.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                @LuFins-Dad said in Going out at the bottom:

                The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                Yeah, GOAT.

                You're not bitter, then.

                Those guys kept my property taxes down for 20 years with their ridiculous sport. Go Tom!

                I was only joking

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
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                  #9

                  He's drunk

                  He doesn't mean it

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                    Yeah, GOAT.

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Going out at the bottom:

                    The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                    Yeah, GOAT.

                    Definitely best cheater of all time.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Going out at the bottom:

                      The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                      Yeah, GOAT.

                      Definitely best cheater of all time.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      @Horace said in Going out at the bottom:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Going out at the bottom:

                      The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                      Yeah, GOAT.

                      Definitely best cheater of all time.

                      The best cheaters are the ones who don't get caught.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @Horace said in Going out at the bottom:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Going out at the bottom:

                        The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                        Yeah, GOAT.

                        Definitely best cheater of all time.

                        The best cheaters are the ones who don't get caught.

                        HoraceH Offline
                        HoraceH Offline
                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Going out at the bottom:

                        @Horace said in Going out at the bottom:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Going out at the bottom:

                        The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                        Yeah, GOAT.

                        Definitely best cheater of all time.

                        The best cheaters are the ones who don't get caught.

                        There's a certain transcendent cheating talent in getting caught red handed, but still going unrecognized as a cheater.

                        Education is extremely important.

                        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                        • CopperC Copper

                          He's drunk

                          He doesn't mean it

                          LuFins DadL Offline
                          LuFins DadL Offline
                          LuFins Dad
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                          #13

                          @Copper said in Going out at the bottom:

                          He's drunk

                          He doesn't mean it

                          A little punch drunk from paying my taxes, maybe…

                          The Brad

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Going out at the bottom:

                            @Horace said in Going out at the bottom:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Going out at the bottom:

                            The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                            Yeah, GOAT.

                            Definitely best cheater of all time.

                            The best cheaters are the ones who don't get caught.

                            There's a certain transcendent cheating talent in getting caught red handed, but still going unrecognized as a cheater.

                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins Dad
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                            #14

                            @Horace said in Going out at the bottom:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Going out at the bottom:

                            @Horace said in Going out at the bottom:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Going out at the bottom:

                            The man and team were investigated, evidence compiled, presented to the commissioner, who summarily destroyed every bit of evidence, issued the harshest penalty in league history, and refuses to reveal what was on the tapes.

                            Yeah, GOAT.

                            Definitely best cheater of all time.

                            The best cheaters are the ones who don't get caught.

                            There's a certain transcendent cheating talent in getting caught red handed, but still going unrecognized as a cheater.

                            https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patriots-reportedly-taped-40-teams-from-2000-2007-9-things-to-know/

                            The Brad

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #15

                              Trivia I didn’t know.

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                              You were warned.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Trivia I didn’t know.

                                318176CE-5C8E-4E5E-A529-56E9B23D57E6.jpeg

                                89th8 Offline
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                                89th
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                @jon-nyc That's really cool trivia

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  @jon-nyc That's really cool trivia

                                  Catseye3C Offline
                                  Catseye3C Offline
                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  @89th said in Going out at the bottom:

                                  That's really cool trivia

                                  From Sports Illustrated: " . . . before committing to a football career, Brady once considered a career in baseball. He was drafted in the 18th round of the 1995 MLB draft as a catcher by the Montreal Expos, who relocated to Washington in 2004 and became the Nationals."

                                  More: https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/02/02/mlb-draft-tom-brady-retirement-montreal-expos-washington-nationals

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    Probably the most famous is Elway. He really teetered between pro baseball and pro football. Archie Manning was a high baseball draft choice.

                                    Russell Wilson was drafted and played a couple of years of minor league ball, never making it to the bigs.

                                    Smarts and athletic talent translate to multiple sports.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • HoraceH Offline
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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      Anywhere there are rules and regulations around fair play which everybody else follows, Tom Brady will excel.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        #20

                                        I’m sure that he would have eventually found his way to Houston in the MLB….On another note, yeah, Brady made the better choice at the time.

                                        He was drafted in the 6th round by the Patriots. A 6th round QB projects to be a decent backup. Obviously, Brady surpassed that, but that’s the expectation. Being drafted in the 18th round of the MLB draft points towards the minor leagues. Backup QB at NFL level > Pitcher at AA Baseball…

                                        I do wonder about the QB of the Arizona Cardinals. He was projected to become a pitcher in the Bigs, and that’s a far better paying gig.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          Probably the most famous is Elway. He really teetered between pro baseball and pro football. Archie Manning was a high baseball draft choice.

                                          Russell Wilson was drafted and played a couple of years of minor league ball, never making it to the bigs.

                                          Smarts and athletic talent translate to multiple sports.

                                          LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                                          #21

                                          @Jolly said in Going out at the bottom:

                                          Probably the most famous is Elway. He really teetered between pro baseball and pro football. Archie Manning was a high baseball draft choice.

                                          Russell Wilson was drafted and played a couple of years of minor league ball, never making it to the bigs.

                                          Smarts and athletic talent translate to multiple sports.

                                          Don’t forget Deon. He actually played both professionally. And Kyler Murray probably should be in the MLB.

                                          The Brad

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