More classified docs found...
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George - did you even read my post? I specifically talk about that as being how the law has been interpreted for sufficiently high status politicians. I’m literally making the point that that’s not what the law is, and that we should return to the letter of the law.
As often, McCarthy is partially right. Intent matters not when it comes to possession, (though knowledge of the possession does, which could save Biden).
On the obstruction charges the fat man is facing, cooperation - or it’s lack - is key.
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George - did you even read my post? I specifically talk about that as being how the law has been interpreted for sufficiently high status politicians. I’m literally making the point that that’s not what the law is, and that we should return to the letter of the law.
As often, McCarthy is partially right. Intent matters not when it comes to possession, (though knowledge of the possession does, which could save Biden).
On the obstruction charges the fat man is facing, cooperation - or it’s lack - is key.
@jon-nyc said in More classified docs found...:
George - did you even read my post? I specifically talk about that as being how the law has been interpreted for sufficiently high status politicians. I’m literally making the point that that’s not what the law is, and that we should return to the letter of the law.
Yes, I did., and though I didn't respond to that point, I wholeheartedly agree. I assume @Jolly does as well. My bad for contrasting the ideas of McCarthy with what you said.
As often, McCarthy is partially right. Intent matters not when it comes to possession, (though knowledge of the possession does, which could save Biden).
On the obstruction charges the fat man is facing, cooperation - or it’s lack - is key.
If by lack of cooperation, you mean obstruction, then, perhaps. That will be interesting.
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@Jolly said in More classified docs found...:
I go back to what I said at the beginning of all this horseshit...It's time to let all this go. Trump, Biden, Pence, Obama...They've all done it, as I'm sure multiple executives have done before.
If it impacts national security, hang them by their thumbs. Otherwise, it's all peanut gallery stuff.
I think the very opposite - we seem to have slid into a situation whereby cabinet officials and above are forgiven as long as they cooperate once the docs are discovered and no ill intent is indicated.
Let’s charge and prosecute these two according to the letter of the law, insofar as it’s warranted under the law, and recalibrate what behavior is expected. Let’s also let the national archives do the labor of separating classified from unclassified when presidents pack up and leave, rather than leaving it to whitehouse staff. Or at least let them do it together.
@jon-nyc said in More classified docs found...:
I think the very opposite - we seem to have slid into a situation whereby cabinet officials and above are forgiven as long as they cooperate once the docs are discovered and no ill intent is indicated.
Let’s charge and prosecute these two according to the letter of the law, insofar as it’s warranted under the law, and recalibrate what behavior is expected. Let’s also let the national archives do the labor of separating classified from unclassified when presidents pack up and leave, rather than leaving it to whitehouse staff. Or at least let them do it together.
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/politics/mike-pence-classified-documents/index.html
Pence: "Mistakes were made. And I take full responsibility."
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Because Trump.
Good call and I wholly agree. Because Trump, unlike his former VP and the current POTUS, refuses all accountability in the matter.
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Because Trump.
Good call and I wholly agree. Because Trump, unlike his former VP and the current POTUS, refuses all accountability in the matter.
@Renauda said in More classified docs found...:
Because Trump, unlike his former VP and the current POTUS, refuses all accountability in the matter.
Except when he said "I did it".
That sounds like accountability to me.
But don't worry about that.
Since it is Mr. Trump you can make up whatever you want and it becomes true, just like magic.
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@Renauda said in More classified docs found...:
Because Trump, unlike his former VP and the current POTUS, refuses all accountability in the matter.
Except when he said "I did it".
That sounds like accountability to me.
But don't worry about that.
Since it is Mr. Trump you can make up whatever you want and it becomes true, just like magic.
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Except when he said "I did it".
That sounds like accountability to me.See Dr. George’s post above.
@Renauda said in More classified docs found...:
Except when he said "I did it".
That sounds like accountability to me.See Dr. George’s post above.
That doesn't sound like "refuses all accountability" either, does it?
But we know that once you make up a Trump story, it becomes truth.
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@Renauda said in More classified docs found...:
Except when he said "I did it".
That sounds like accountability to me.See Dr. George’s post above.
That doesn't sound like "refuses all accountability" either, does it?
But we know that once you make up a Trump story, it becomes truth.
Since it is Mr. Trump you can make up whatever you want and it becomes true, just like magic.
Or
But we know that once you make up a Trump story, it becomes truth.
Can I?
How’s this one:
Trump is a one term, one time President of the United States.
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Multiple sources told Fox News that the Justice Department has closed the investigation into Pence’s possession of classified documents at his residence in Indiana.
The Justice Department sent a letter to Pence attorneys this week that said the FBI and DOJ have completed the investigation no criminal charges will be brought against the former vice president.
Pence told the National Archives on Jan. 18 about a small number of potentially classified documents found in two boxes. Another two boxes contained copies of vice presidential papers, and all of them were immediately put into a safe, according to the Pence team.
