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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @George-K

    Babushka talks about it disparagingly because she is over 75 years old and fears nothing. With others it is never discussed.

    Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian. Like I said a year ago, the Ukrainians will make the Provo IRA look like Boy Scouts.

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    George K
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    #1361

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian.

    A good indication of that was the removal of the statue of Catherine.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian.

      A good indication of that was the removal of the statue of Catherine.

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #1362

      @George-K

      The statue had been removed in the 1990s then put back sometime in the last decade. No big deal as we all know statues come and go. In any case Catherine was a German princess who usurped the throne from her Prussophile and German speaking yet nominally Russian Romanov husband, Peter III. No loss.

      Elbows up!

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #1363

        A Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 call sign ‘FCKPTN2’ (Fuck Putin 2) is currently active over Ukraine.

        image.jpeg

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Copper
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          #1364

          It looks fake

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          • CopperC Copper

            It looks fake

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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1365

            @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

            It looks fake

            Yeah, what would you know about tracking flights?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #1366

              IIRC, think I read where the Russians are in the midst of a big call-up.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                IIRC, think I read where the Russians are in the midst of a big call-up.

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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #1367

                @Jolly

                Not yet but I think it’s coming soon.

                Elbows up!

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #1368

                  Couple of things.

                  One news report (ABC?) claimed that Russian casualties are now in excess of 100,000. The surprising thing is not the number (Ukranian sources have been saying this for months), but that a major news outlet is reporting that number. IIRC, the British Ministry of Defence reported that number a few months ago.

                  And this:

                  U.S. officials advise Ukraine to wait on offensive

                  Senior U.S. officials are advising Ukraine to hold off on launching a major offensive against Russian forces until the latest supply of U.S. weaponry is in place and training has been provided, a senior Biden administration official said on Friday.

                  The official, speaking to a small group of reporters on condition of anonymity, said the United States was holding fast to its decision not to provide Abrams tanks to Ukraine at this time, amid a controversy with Germany over tanks.

                  President Joe Biden, who approved a new $2.5 billion weapons package for Ukraine this week, told reporters at the White House, "Ukraine is going to get all the help they need," when asked if he supports Poland's intention to send German-made Leopard tanks to Ukraine.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1369

                    Proxies and Puppets. A long analytical essay but well worth the read:

                    https://open.substack.com/pub/samf/p/proxies-and-puppets?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1370

                      Great piece, clarity amid the fog of war.

                      Unfortunately a negotiated end ceding Ukrainian territory just kicks the can down the road.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
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                        #1371

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1372

                          The ignorant posts in that thread are stunning.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1373

                            Putin continues to ramp up the rhetoric at the Stalingrad memorial ceremony:

                            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/02/02/putin-sends-warning-to-west-on-80th-anniversary-of-battle-of-stalingrad-a80128

                            Elbows up!

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                              George K
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                              Russia’s Casualties in Ukraine Near 200,000

                              Close to 200,000 Russian troops have been killed or wounded in the war in Ukraine, according to estimates from U.S. and European officials, a toll that is likely to continue to rise as the Kremlin readies a fresh offensive in the coming weeks.

                              The U.S. military, which keeps rough estimates on Russian casualties in Ukraine, puts the figure for wounded and dead at roughly 180,000, though officials stressed such figures aren’t precise, a U.S. defense official said.

                              The tally matched assessments by Norway’s defense chief Gen. Eirik Kristoffersen, who said last week that the number of Russian soldiers killed or injured was approaching 180,000. Mr. Kristoffersen estimated that 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or wounded, in line with an estimate Pentagon officials put out in November.

                              The casualty count comes as Moscow’s forces press an eastern offensive in an effort to seize the advantage on the battlefield before tanks pledged by Kyiv’s allies begin to arrive in Ukraine and as the conflict approaches its one-year mark on Feb. 24.

                              The Kremlin and Ministry of Defense didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on the Western casualty assessments.

                              In September, Russia’s Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, said 5,937 Russian military personnel had been killed in the conflict in Ukraine. That was only the second time Russian authorities had released any official casualty count. That figure hasn’t been updated since.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Axtremus
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                                SpaceX bars Kyiv from using Starlink tech for drone control
                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64579267

                                SpaceX says it provided its technology for humanitarian use, does not want its technology "weaponized," using it for communications is OK but not for offensive purposes.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  SpaceX bars Kyiv from using Starlink tech for drone control
                                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64579267

                                  SpaceX says it provided its technology for humanitarian use, does not want its technology "weaponized," using it for communications is OK but not for offensive purposes.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #1376

                                  @Axtremus

                                  ….does not want its technology "weaponized," using it for communications is OK but not for offensive purposes..

                                  I guess SpaceX BOD and management didn’t get the memo that the Kremlin is about to launch a a massive offensive with the objective of annihilating the Ukrainian army, the total destructionof Ukraine’s civilian infrastructure and, the subjugation the Ukrainian nation under the jackboot of Putinism and great Russian chauvinism.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1377

                                    How do they distinguish the use?

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1378

                                      Is the Wagner group on their way out?

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kremlin-leaders-fear-wagner-group-founder-putin-ally-says/ar-AA17nr3L?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=03d3151dedce480782197488837841de

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Is the Wagner group on their way out?

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kremlin-leaders-fear-wagner-group-founder-putin-ally-says/ar-AA17nr3L?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=03d3151dedce480782197488837841de

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1379

                                        @Mik

                                        Not sure but from what I have been hearing and reading since the new year, Prigozhin’s fiefdom is not as secure as it was this time last year.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1380

                                          Quickest way out is to be a threat to the tsar.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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