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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    A couple of points I would like to add. Comments I commonly heard from male colleagues, friends and acquaintances when i told them the details of my initial diagnosis, went along the lines of:

    "I'm too busy to get the test"

    "I am not ready to hear the news if it comes back with a high score."

    "I don't have any trouble peeing so i don't see the need."

    "My father didn't have it so I am not concerned."

    "A cancer diagnosis would freak me out, i wouldn't be able to sleep or eat."

    All i can say is that when I got the confirmed diagnosis last August It didn't phase me and i never thought twice about it after. Even when the more aggressive cells were confirmed in March, it didn't worry me. Why? Because the urologist felt confident from my first visit that all the right screening steps were taken within a reasonable timeframe to ensure a postive outcome once the time to act was evident. Not once did I ever think that all was bad news from the doctors. In fact i specifically remember saying to the urologist when he explained my Gleason 5 diagnosis, "well, that's good news" and we moved forward.

    To me it has been nothing more than an inconvenience. And for the record, my father lived to 91 years. He never had prostate cancer and I remember from his medical records he did screen annually.

    Elbows up!

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #22

      The "I'm too busy" is BS - if you have time to see your doc, presumably, you have another 30 minutes to get your blood drawn.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        The "I'm too busy" is BS - if you have time to see your doc, presumably, you have another 30 minutes to get your blood drawn.

        RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #23

        @George-K Sadly, that was spewed from the mouth of an individual who in real life is perhaps the most unproductive workaholic narcissist and micro-managing nano bourgeois shopkeeper I have ever in encountered in a workplace in 45 years.

        Everything about him was BS. Was glad when COVID 19 closed his doors in March.

        Elbows up!

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
          #24

          Sorry to hear you're going through this, but very glad they caught it, Renauda.

          There's really no excuse not to have the screening. Admittedly, I put off the colonoscopy for a couple of years when I turned 50, but that was mostly due to me dreading the process. As it happens, it was a good job I got it done, for peace of mind and polyp removal if nothing else.

          (In case you don't know - the poster formerly known as D'Oh)

          I was only joking

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          • RainmanR Offline
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            Rainman
            wrote on last edited by
            #25

            @Renauda said in More prostate cancer:

            Sadly, that was spewed from the mouth of an individual who in real life is perhaps the most unproductive workaholic narcissist and micro-managing nano bourgeois shopkeeper I have ever in encountered in a workplace in 45 years.

            It's a LEFT πŸ€› BOOM! -- Then a RIGHT!!!! πŸ‘Š
            😳

            Hope Renauda is back for good, or for a good long while!
            (you old softspoken softie, you...)

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            • George KG George K

              @Jolly said in More prostate cancer:

              I am extremely glad the rumors of your death are quite unfounded.😊

              Indeed.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #26

              @George-K said in More prostate cancer:

              @Jolly said in More prostate cancer:

              I am extremely glad the rumors of your death are quite unfounded.😊

              Indeed.

              +1

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              • LarryL Offline
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                Larry
                wrote on last edited by Larry
                #27

                I have avoided opening this thread because with my own recent medical issues i dreaded the discussion. Now i see Renauda is posting in it! Hello guy! It is so good to hear from you again!!

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                • LarryL Larry

                  I have avoided opening this thread because with my own recent medical issues i dreaded the discussion. Now i see Renauda is posting in it! Hello guy! It is so good to hear from you again!!

                  RainmanR Offline
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                  Rainman
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #28

                  @Larry said in More prostate cancer:

                  I have avoided opening this thread because with my own recent medical issues i dreaded the discussion. Now i see Renauda is posting in it! Hello gut! It is so good to hear from you again!!

                  ?

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
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                    #29

                    Hello gut indeed.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • RainmanR Offline
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                      Rainman
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #30

                      I think he meant it.

                      Must be writing a new song.

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                      • F Offline
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                        Friday
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #31

                        It really is nice to hear from you again Ren. Hope your recovery continues to go well.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                          #32

                          Thanks for the PSA PSA.

                          I’ve never had one and get this - I already get monthly blood draws and my dad died of prostate cancer.

                          And the idea of getting a bad diagnosis isn’t scary anymore. I was long since dragged out of the fantasy that I was somehow bulletproof.

                          So yeah, not a lot of excuses. I’ll get it added to my regimen.

                          Geed to see you here and glad you’re doing well.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Klaus
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                            #33

                            While PSA tests may of course save lives in individual cases, that is not an argument that they should be performed in general because it ignores the cases where the PSA test may have made the situation worse.

                            This is how Wikipedia summarizes the state of the art.

                            A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2009 found that over a 7 to 10-year period, "screening did not reduce the death rate in men 55 and over."[50] Former screening proponents, including some from Stanford University, have come out against routine testing. In February 2010, the American Cancer Society urged "more caution in using the test." And the American College of Preventive Medicine concluded that "there was insufficient evidence to recommend routine screening."

                            PSA tests result in huge amounts of money being shifted. Whenever that much money is involved, one has to be very careful about whom to trust.

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                            • RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #34

                              I do not see how a simple blood test can make matters worse, but what you just wrote, Klaus, seems as good an excuse as I have ever heard not to get a routine PSA test.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by Mik
                                #35

                                Besides that, it is statistical, which does not help me as an individual at all. I care about MY prostate not a sampling of people. I'll keep getting the blood test annually.

                                β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #36

                                  That's more or less how I have approached this question the past nine years. Strangely enough, I don't regret doing so either.

                                  Elbows up!

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