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It’s just Norway but…

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    Norwegian drivers average 7500 miles per year. US averages over 14,000… Vehicle ownership rate in US is about 850 per 1,000 people, it’s 540 or so in Norway.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in It’s just Norway but…:

    Norwegian drivers average 7500 miles per year. US averages over 14,000

    This is not a problem, the miles per year will come right down when we go all EV.

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    • CopperC Copper

      @LuFins-Dad said in It’s just Norway but…:

      Norwegian drivers average 7500 miles per year. US averages over 14,000

      This is not a problem, the miles per year will come right down when we go all EV.

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      @Copper said in It’s just Norway but…:

      @LuFins-Dad said in It’s just Norway but…:

      Norwegian drivers average 7500 miles per year. US averages over 14,000

      This is not a problem, the miles per year will come right down when we go all EV.

      Karla and I each average over 30K per year…

      The Brad

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        Life's different in Europe. People walk to the shops. People walk into town. I didn't own my own car until I was 26.

        You'd have to be a freaking masochistic health nut to do that here.

        I was only joking

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          Gasoline car prices in Norway are taxed at around 200%.

          A Tesla is way less expensive than a tiny gasoline car.

          I'd buy an EV in Norway, too.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            Gasoline car prices in Norway are taxed at around 200%.

            A Tesla is way less expensive than a tiny gasoline car.

            I'd buy an EV in Norway, too.

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            @Klaus said in It’s just Norway but…:

            Gasoline car prices in Norway are taxed at around 200%.

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            I remember you saying that taxes were ridiculous in other European countries.

            IIRC, Denmark was 25%, is that right?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              How much is car tax in Norway?
              Norway has a VAT of 25% on all new cars. This is in addition to the registration fee, which is based on the vehicle’s weight and ranges from 1,200 NOK ($117) to 2,400 NOK ($234). However, both of these expenses are included in the price you pay to the dealer.

              The annual road tax is also calculated according to a car’s weight and emissions and can cost anything from 200 NOK ($17) to 3,600 NOK ($352).

              There is also the special carbon tax, which is levied on all cars that emit more than 120 grams of CO2 per kilometer. The tax ranges from 1,000 NOK ($97) to 2,500 NOK ($244) and is paid annually. That said, the lowest payment for a carbon tax is around 20%.

              Additionally, there is the NOX tax, measured according to the amount of Nitrogen oxides your car emits. The average pay for this tax is about 2.02 USD per kilogram of Nitrogen Oxide.

              In this regard, a car with a greater engine power will pay more than that with a smaller one. Other smaller taxes you could pay include weight and car scraping taxes.

              It’s advisable to pick a car with a low emission level to reduce the tax amount. An electric car is the best car to buy if you want to save up some coins on tax. These cars have nearly zero emissions and are also the cheapest, as you won’t pay for ferry rides or other incentives.

              Moreover, you pay less taxes on smaller, lighter vehicles.

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                  https://expatrist.com/buying-a-car-in-norway/

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                    Sure, with all that oil money they can afford EVs.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      Well now we know the geolocation search terms EV skeptics are going to use to try to cherry-pick horror stories.

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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in It’s just Norway but…:

                      Well now we know the geolocation search terms EV skeptics are going to use to try to cherry-pick horror stories.

                      Well that didn't take long.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in It’s just Norway but…:

                        Well now we know the geolocation search terms EV skeptics are going to use to try to cherry-pick horror stories.

                        Well that didn't take long.

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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in It’s just Norway but…:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in It’s just Norway but…:

                        Well now we know the geolocation search terms EV skeptics are going to use to try to cherry-pick horror stories.

                        Well that didn't take long.

                        Horror stories? I just saw people comment on the different economic factors that make Norway a difficult model to compare with.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in It’s just Norway but…:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in It’s just Norway but…:

                          Well now we know the geolocation search terms EV skeptics are going to use to try to cherry-pick horror stories.

                          Well that didn't take long.

                          Horror stories? I just saw people comment on the different economic factors that make Norway a difficult model to compare with.

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in It’s just Norway but…:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in It’s just Norway but…:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in It’s just Norway but…:

                          Well now we know the geolocation search terms EV skeptics are going to use to try to cherry-pick horror stories.

                          Well that didn't take long.

                          Horror stories? I just saw people comment on the different economic factors that make Norway a difficult model to compare with.

                          Just Asking Questions yeah yeah I got it.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            We all know what we all meant.

                            And why we meant it.

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                              Singapore also. But they have a COE (Certificate of Entitlement). That is a certificate to allow you to buy a car. Started a long time ago to limit the number of cars available because it is a small island.

                              The COE has to be renewed every 10 years (I believe). At that point, almost every people buy a new car, as it doesn't make sense to buy many thousand of dollars on a 10 year old car.

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