SBF/FTX
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Why should his parent’s pick up or even help with the legal fees? He is an adult, regardless whether or not he behaves like one.
He made his own bed and now he must sleep in it.
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A month-old video which illuminated some of the basics I hadn't been aware of.
Link to videoWhat strikes me is the extent to which this was a beta nerd takeover of billions of dollars due to a combination of family connections and blind faith in "geniuses".
Maybe there is a good reason that many people have evolved with latent distrust of experts and authority. This shit gets out of hand pretty easily, and there really are no trustworthy gatekeepers. Even if the psychological mediocrities with the gift of faith in institutions they do not truly understand, will never get that.
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Extradited to the US.
Released on $250 million bail. Apparently his parents are using their house as security for the bail. He is restricted to the house.
Two questions.
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Two lawyers have a house worth $250 million?
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(seen on Twitter)
How do you find a Bail Bondsman who can put up $250-million?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Extradited to the US.
Released on $250 million bail. Apparently his parents are using their house as security for the bail. He is restricted to the house.
Two questions.
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Two lawyers have a house worth $250 million?
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(seen on Twitter)
How do you find a Bail Bondsman who can put up $250-million?
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I was surprised to read that the CEO and co-founder of the company plead guilty.
Only about one month after things started to fall apart.
In cases like this, a guilt plea only happens after many months (years) of bargaining, etc.
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Extradited to the US.
Released on $250 million bail. Apparently his parents are using their house as security for the bail. He is restricted to the house.
Two questions.
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Two lawyers have a house worth $250 million?
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(seen on Twitter)
How do you find a Bail Bondsman who can put up $250-million?
Extradited to the US.
Released on $250 million bail. Apparently his parents are using their house as security for the bail. He is restricted to the house.
Two questions.
- Two lawyers have a house worth $250 million?
Wouldn’t need to be worth the whole amount, 10% is typical in ‘normal’ cases.
- (seen on Twitter)
How do you find a Bail Bondsman who can put up $250-million?
I assume they did this in a very non-standard way, maybe some bespoke credit deal with a bank syndicate. But that’s just a guess.
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Extradited to the US.
Released on $250 million bail. Apparently his parents are using their house as security for the bail. He is restricted to the house.
Two questions.
- Two lawyers have a house worth $250 million?
Wouldn’t need to be worth the whole amount, 10% is typical in ‘normal’ cases.
- (seen on Twitter)
How do you find a Bail Bondsman who can put up $250-million?
I assume they did this in a very non-standard way, maybe some bespoke credit deal with a bank syndicate. But that’s just a guess.
Wouldn’t need to be worth the whole amount, 10% is typical in ‘normal’ cases.
Yes, but if he skips, aren't they on the hook for the entire amount.
But, even if I'm wrong, a $25 million house?
I assume they did this in a very non-standard way, maybe some bespoke credit deal with a bank syndicate. But that’s just a guess.
Could be.
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Andy McCarthy's take on the bail - it's all for show.
The Biden Justice Department and the SDNY want you to know that this is a very serious case — an “epic” fraud, the prosecutors said in court today. So bail was agreed to at $250 million, so the Justice Department could say it is the highest bail amount in the history of federal prosecutions, maybe even the history of the universe.
But is it really? SBF did not have to put up $250 million in collateral. The only thing that appears to be posted is his parents’ home in Palo Alto. I’m sure it is very nice, but rest assured it’s not anything remotely close to $250 million nice.
Other than that, the bond has to be co-signed by four “financially responsible people.” A financially responsible person is one who is reasonably trustworthy when it comes to paying his bills; financially responsible does not mean financially rich. There is no requirement in the bond that the FRPs demonstrate a capacity to pay $250 million if Sam goes on the lam.
The fact is, SBF has already been released. They let him go on a signature. He didn’t need to establish that, if he absconds, the government would have $250 million in cash or other assets on which to execute. DOJ likes being able to tell the media that SBF’s bail is “a quarter billion dollars.” But if an alleged criminal were really so terrible as to rate that kind of historically exorbitant bail amount, then the government wouldn’t release him on little more than a signature on a piece of paper. It would instead make him come up with lots and lots of property so that the government would have something close to the bond amount that it could quickly collect if he took off.
I am not saying that the crimes charged are unserious. SBF is obviously looking at scores of years in prison. But Bernie Madoff’s swindle dwarfed what SBF is charged with — about $50 billion, compared to about $2 billion. Yet, Madoff’s bail was $10 million, 1/25th of what the Biden Justice Department claims SBF’s bail is.
Clearly, it is true that anyone who signs the bond as a surety would be liable for the face amount of the bond. In theory, if SBF flees, the four co-signers, only one of whom must be nonfamily, would theoretically be on the hook for a quarter-bil. That doesn’t mean, though, that the sureties have that kind of money, or that the government has any realistic expectation of collecting such a sum.
In essence, the government took SBF’s passport and told him to stay with his parents. They told the world he was such a flight risk that he was forced to sign a bond for $250M . . . and then they released him — home for the holidays! — having posted no assets and having provided the government with no indication that the taxpayers can expect to see anything close to $250M if he flees.
I don’t believe he’ll flee, mind you. He’s probably tapped out, he doesn’t want to see his parents lose their home, and he doesn’t seem like the type who’d do well in the life of a fugitive. But the bail amount is meant to shape public opinion about the gravity of the case, that’s all.
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In fairness, he’s confined to the parents home and has an ankle bracelet. It’s not like he’s “a free man”.
This is interesting:
He also pointed out that Mr. Bankman-Fried had consented to extradition. Had he resisted the process, leading to a drawn-out legal fight, it was “a near certainty” the government would have opposed any pretrial release, Mr. Roos added.
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It was probably in the couch cushions.
FTX Says It Has Located More Than $5 Billion in Cash, Liquid Assets
Bankrupt cryptocurrency exchange FTX said it has located more than $5 billion in cash and other liquid assets and is hoping to sell hundreds of additional holdings with a book value of more than $4.6 billion.
