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The big short

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  • CopperC Copper

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The big short:

    @Copper Maybe donate that money so that other people can live instead. If a handful of patients are just a few thousand short of keeping them alive, your 2 million would go a long way.

    It's not my 2 million, it is money paid by the insurance company to cover my bills.

    The federal government would be happy to buy the same insurance for you, or any other citizen, if you can't afford it. Check out healthcare.gov if you want some.

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    Aqua Letifer
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    #28

    @Copper I'm good, actually. But if it's the economy you're worried about, spending that much on one person who's no longer working sounds selfish and inefficient. It'd be a better use of resources to use your payments to save the life of someone who's still actually contributing to the economy, no?

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @Copper I'm good, actually. But if it's the economy you're worried about, spending that much on one person who's no longer working sounds selfish and inefficient. It'd be a better use of resources to use your payments to save the life of someone who's still actually contributing to the economy, no?

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      Copper
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      #29

      @Aqua-Letifer said in The big short:

      @Copper I'm good, actually. But if it's the economy you're worried about, spending that much on one person who's no longer working sounds selfish and inefficient. It'd be a better use of resources to use your payments to save the life of someone who's still actually contributing to the economy, no?

      Tell it to the death panel. I'm sure they would be happy to receive your petition to kill some old people.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @LuFins-Dad said in The big short:

        Rather than snipe at each other, why not discuss what would seem reasonable to you?

        Restaurants have curbside pickup, delivery, and also double as grocery distributors. (They're already doing that last in my area.)

        Retail stores do the same with curbside and online ordering. Strict limits on who can be in the store at any given time. Employees given sanitary equipment. (And really what they should be doing is tripling down on their online presence. Well-targeted Facebook and Instagram ads can be like printing money if done right.)

        Offices stay remote. Because come on.

        Maybe in warehouses, have a few more people on staff, not less, so that packages can be moved around through a zone system instead of every worker crossing paths with every other.

        Ramp the hell out of sanitary wipe/hand sanitizer production, along with masks, and basically make it mandatory that companies provide these on-site.

        So okay those are my stupid ideas. What are everyone else's?

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        @Aqua-Letifer

        I’ll take it a little further in some regards and less in others. It’s about controlled risk. There have been a couple physicians videos that strike home about how easy it is to destroy with soap and water. You keep pushing this. We can be open. Just keep your distance and practice good hygiene...

        Office Work - Say hello to the 2-3 day on site work week. Rotate staff so you never have more than 50% on site, the other half works from home that day. The rest is telecommute.

        Non-Essential Retail - Limit the number of customers at one time, reduce hours and close on Sundays.

        Schools - That will be the hard one...

        The Brad

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        • CopperC Copper

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The big short:

          @Copper I'm good, actually. But if it's the economy you're worried about, spending that much on one person who's no longer working sounds selfish and inefficient. It'd be a better use of resources to use your payments to save the life of someone who's still actually contributing to the economy, no?

          Tell it to the death panel. I'm sure they would be happy to receive your petition to kill some old people.

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          @Copper It'd be very good for the economy.

          Please love yourself.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Aqua-Letifer

            I’ll take it a little further in some regards and less in others. It’s about controlled risk. There have been a couple physicians videos that strike home about how easy it is to destroy with soap and water. You keep pushing this. We can be open. Just keep your distance and practice good hygiene...

            Office Work - Say hello to the 2-3 day on site work week. Rotate staff so you never have more than 50% on site, the other half works from home that day. The rest is telecommute.

            Non-Essential Retail - Limit the number of customers at one time, reduce hours and close on Sundays.

            Schools - That will be the hard one...

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #32

            @LuFins-Dad Shouldn't there be some sort of graduated risk for those who pose a higher possibility of getting a serious case?

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @LuFins-Dad Shouldn't there be some sort of graduated risk for those who pose a higher possibility of getting a serious case?

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              @Aqua-Letifer Oh, absolutely.

              The Brad

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @LuFins-Dad Shouldn't there be some sort of graduated risk for those who pose a higher possibility of getting a serious case?

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                #34

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The big short:

                @LuFins-Dad Shouldn't there be some sort of graduated risk for those who pose a higher possibility of getting a serious case?

                Are you saying that not all people have the same value?

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                • CopperC Copper

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The big short:

                  @LuFins-Dad Shouldn't there be some sort of graduated risk for those who pose a higher possibility of getting a serious case?

                  Are you saying that not all people have the same value?

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #35

                  @Copper It's not me who says that, it's the economy. The ones who are most likely to cost our health infrastructure millions are also the ones most likely not to be currently contributing to the economy. They're more expensive to save, and society gets a poor return on their investment.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Copper It's not me who says that, it's the economy. The ones who are most likely to cost our health infrastructure millions are also the ones most likely not to be currently contributing to the economy. They're more expensive to save, and society gets a poor return on their investment.

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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The big short:

                    @Copper It's not me who says that, it's the economy. The ones who are most likely to cost our health infrastructure millions are also the ones most likely not to be currently contributing to the economy. They're more expensive to save, and society gets a poor return on their investment.

                    I'm just messing with you. We all know who is worthless.

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                      Who are we kidding? We place dollar signs on human life everyday. Sooner or later, the cure will be determined to be worse than the disease, and we go back to work.

                      Maybe we make some changes, maybe we don't. But we cannot continue to function the way we are going.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Who are we kidding? We place dollar signs on human life everyday. Sooner or later, the cure will be determined to be worse than the disease, and we go back to work.

                        Maybe we make some changes, maybe we don't. But we cannot continue to function the way we are going.

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                        #38

                        @Jolly said in The big short:

                        Who are we kidding? We place dollar signs on human life everyday. Sooner or later, the cure will be determined to be worse than the disease, and we go back to work.

                        Maybe we make some changes, maybe we don't. But we cannot continue to function the way we are going.

                        So what's your number?

                        Please love yourself.

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