Struggling
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Never understood it, myself. If it’s a vegetable, let it be a vegetable. There’s nothing wrong with being a vegetable. Don’t force your own preferences on the vegetables to be something they aren’t… Unless they don’t identify as vegetables? I mean, if the vegetables identify as meat, who are we to say they aren’t?
We must protect our trans meat allies!
@LuFins-Dad said in Struggling:
Never understood it, myself. If it’s a vegetable, let it be a vegetable. There’s nothing wrong with being a vegetable. Don’t force your own preferences on the vegetables to be something they aren’t… Unless they don’t identify as vegetables? I mean, if the vegetables identify as meat, who are we to say they aren’t?
We must protect our trans meat allies!
Thank you for bringing some common sense to this topic. Who are we to impose our perceptions on broccoli?
Nothing worse than mis-veggie-ing. Might get you banned on Twitter in the old days.
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I've not done the BK "Impossible Burger," but I've tried the White Castle version of it.
I mean, if you're going to try "fake meat," it might as well be a "fake slider," right?
It wasn't bad. Actually, it tasted sort of like a slider - just a bit different. If you gave me a dinner of them, I would eat it, noting that something's not quite right, but not offensive.
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I had an impossible burger at a burger place somewhere - not BK, and thought it was pretty decent. The fact that it cost more than regular beef and may well be no healthier wasn't exactly a selling point for me.
As an aside, Burger King in general seems to have got almost prohibitively expensive. We can get a meal for four at the local KFC, with leftovers, for only slightly more than two BK meals.
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I've tried both Beyond and Impossible. Taste-wise I like them just fine. But I cannot understand why they continued to be significantly more expensive than real beef. You'd figure if they go directly from plant to food, as opposed to from plant to livestock to food, cutting out a big middle step with all that carbon and energy savings, that it should be a lot cheaper. Yet it never is.
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I've tried both Beyond and Impossible. Taste-wise I like them just fine. But I cannot understand why they continued to be significantly more expensive than real beef. You'd figure if they go directly from plant to food, as opposed to from plant to livestock to food, cutting out a big middle step with all that carbon and energy savings, that it should be a lot cheaper. Yet it never is.
@Axtremus said in Struggling:
I've tried both Beyond and Impossible. Taste-wise I like them just fine. But I cannot understand why they continued to be significantly more expensive than real beef. You'd figure if they go directly from plant to food, as opposed to from plant to livestock to food, cutting out a big middle step with all that carbon and energy savings, that it should be a lot cheaper. Yet it never is.
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Scale
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it’s not a straight line from the farm to Beyond… It does have its own production overhead.
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@Axtremus said in Struggling:
I've tried both Beyond and Impossible. Taste-wise I like them just fine. But I cannot understand why they continued to be significantly more expensive than real beef. You'd figure if they go directly from plant to food, as opposed to from plant to livestock to food, cutting out a big middle step with all that carbon and energy savings, that it should be a lot cheaper. Yet it never is.
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Scale
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it’s not a straight line from the farm to Beyond… It does have its own production overhead.
@LuFins-Dad said in Struggling:
- it’s not a straight line from the farm to Beyond… It does have its own production overhead.
This one I am skeptical about when comparing to beef -- where are the supposed energy/carbon footprint savings if it costs them more than actually raising livestock?
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@LuFins-Dad said in Struggling:
- it’s not a straight line from the farm to Beyond… It does have its own production overhead.
This one I am skeptical about when comparing to beef -- where are the supposed energy/carbon footprint savings if it costs them more than actually raising livestock?
@Axtremus said in Struggling:
@LuFins-Dad said in Struggling:
- it’s not a straight line from the farm to Beyond… It does have its own production overhead.
This one I am skeptical about when comparing to beef -- where are the supposed energy/carbon footprint savings if it costs them more than actually raising livestock?
Where are costs limited to energy? And why are you tying overhead strictly to carbon? You are also completely ignoring how scale effects all the aspects of production including transportation.
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I was going to try one in 2017, but then I saw the nutritional information. It wasn't any better for me than beef and it had all sorts of weird things in it.
I'm with Lufin. Want me to eat more vegetarian? No issue. Show me how to make great, satisfying dishes that way like I am tonight.
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Being so anti smacks of boomerism, y'all know that, right?
Why eat this stuff instead of meat? Because it isn't meat, it's something else. Why not eat vegetables instead? Because it works better than kale if you're making a burger.I really don't see the issue.
