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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

    “It has been one of the big, unfortunate ironies of the past several years: Many of the same individuals and institutions on the political left right who spent the years 201720 through 202022 yelling about the importance of norms and institutions have themselves not hesitated to undermine our institutions when they’re unhappy with a given outcome. For example, the newly-elected incoming leader of the House DemocratsRepublicans is a past election denier who baselessly said the 201620 election was, ‘illegitimate’ and suggested that we had a, ‘fake’ president. He has also mounted reckless attacks on our independent judiciary and said that Justices he didn’t like have, ‘zero legitimacy.

    I am still surprised that people seem to think that one party or the other has the pure morality vs. the other party? What is that English saying - two sides of the same thing?

    George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #7

    @taiwan_girl IOW, it was totes OK to do for the 2016 election (And 2000 ("Selected not Elected!), and 2004 election - "Diebold!") but not OK for 2020.

    Is that what you're really saying?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #8

      She’s just setting up a straw man that people who tend to prefer one side, are slavishly cartoonishly devoted to that side. And therefore irrational.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #9

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
          Doctor PhibesD Offline
          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          Do none of you chaps see a certain difference in degree from what was claimed in 2000, 2016, and 2020?

          Or is it just me that's missing the fucking obvious, and all these three events were equivalent? 'Cos they sure didn't look that way to me.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            Do none of you chaps see a certain difference in degree from what was claimed in 2000, 2016, and 2020?

            Or is it just me that's missing the fucking obvious, and all these three events were equivalent? 'Cos they sure didn't look that way to me.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #11

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

            a certain difference in degree

            So, we're arguing about price?

            Is that your point?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

            Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
            • George KG George K

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

              a certain difference in degree

              So, we're arguing about price?

              Is that your point?

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
              #12

              @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

              a certain difference in degree

              So, we're arguing about price?

              Is that your point?

              Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?

              Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

              I was only joking

              George KG 89th8 CopperC 3 Replies Last reply
              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                a certain difference in degree

                So, we're arguing about price?

                Is that your point?

                Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?

                Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

                George KG Offline
                George KG Offline
                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #13

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                a certain difference in degree

                So, we're arguing about price?

                Is that your point?

                Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?

                Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

                "You can have the election stolen from you." - Clinton

                "He's an illegitimate president." - Harris

                "'He's an illegitimate president' 'Would you be my vice-president?" - Biden

                "Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016" - President Carter

                "Though legally elected, not legitimate" - Nadler

                "Russia's interference altered the election" - Feinstein

                "I object to the 15 (electoral) votes from the State of North Carolina" - Shiela Jackson Lee

                "Constantly shifting vote tallies in Ohio" - Nancy Pelosi

                There are dozens more, but I won't burden you with that.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                  a certain difference in degree

                  So, we're arguing about price?

                  Is that your point?

                  Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?

                  Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

                  89th8 Offline
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                  89th
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #14

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                  @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                  a certain difference in degree

                  So, we're arguing about price?

                  Is that your point?

                  Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?

                  Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

                  Gore in 2000 was a rubber band gun

                  Clinton in 2016 was a BB gun

                  Trump in 2020 was a bazooka

                  All weapons, but not even remotely close to the same class of damage.

                  George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                  • 89th8 89th

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                    @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                    a certain difference in degree

                    So, we're arguing about price?

                    Is that your point?

                    Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?

                    Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

                    Gore in 2000 was a rubber band gun

                    Clinton in 2016 was a BB gun

                    Trump in 2020 was a bazooka

                    All weapons, but not even remotely close to the same class of damage.

                    George KG Offline
                    George KG Offline
                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    @89th said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                    Clinton in 2016 was a BB gun

                    Trump in 2020 was a bazooka

                    So you’re arguing about price as well.

                    All weapons, but not even remotely close to the same class of damage.

                    I’m not justifying what Trump said, I’m pointing out that the election denials go back a fifth of a century.

                    And guess who did it.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                    89th8 1 Reply Last reply
                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                      a certain difference in degree

                      So, we're arguing about price?

                      Is that your point?

                      Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?

                      Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

                      CopperC Offline
                      CopperC Offline
                      Copper
                      wrote on last edited by Copper
                      #16

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                      Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?
                      Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

                      Yes, it is different.

                      The difference was that Ms. Clinton's rants about were taken as truth, no questions asked.

                      Mr. Trump's rants were taken as criminal, no questions asked.

                      Other than that there was no real difference to their message, both ultimately conceded the election.

                      Of course Ms. Clinton's followers caused much more damage in post-election riots. I don't think anyone disputes that.

                      Even today Ms. Clinton advises democrat candidates to never, ever concede. She is heroic.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #17

                        @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                        @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                        a certain difference in degree

                        So, we're arguing about price?

                        Is that your point?

                        Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?

                        Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

                        "You can have the election stolen from you." - Clinton

                        "He's an illegitimate president." - Harris

                        "'He's an illegitimate president' 'Would you be my vice-president?" - Biden

                        "Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016" - President Carter

                        "Though legally elected, not legitimate" - Nadler

                        "Russia's interference altered the election" - Feinstein

                        "I object to the 15 (electoral) votes from the State of North Carolina" - Shiela Jackson Lee

                        "Constantly shifting vote tallies in Ohio" - Nancy Pelosi

                        There are dozens more, but I won't burden you with that.

                        So apparently you're claiming there's no difference.

                        You play the piano. Rachmaninoff played the piano. No difference.

                        I was only joking

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                          Are you really trying to claim that what Hillary said in 2016 and Gore said in 2000 was similar to what Trump said in 2020?
                          Because it wasn't. Anybody can see that. Nothing like it.

                          Yes, it is different.

                          The difference was that Ms. Clinton's rants about were taken as truth, no questions asked.

                          Mr. Trump's rants were taken as criminal, no questions asked.

                          Other than that there was no real difference to their message, both ultimately conceded the election.

                          Of course Ms. Clinton's followers caused much more damage in post-election riots. I don't think anyone disputes that.

                          Even today Ms. Clinton advises democrat candidates to never, ever concede. She is heroic.

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #18

                          @Copper said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                          The difference was that Ms. Clinton's rants about were taken as truth, no questions asked.

                          Not by me they weren't.

                          Trump won the election in 2016. He lost in 2020. I'm happy to acknowledge this.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Copper said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                            The difference was that Ms. Clinton's rants about were taken as truth, no questions asked.

                            Not by me they weren't.

                            Trump won the election in 2016. He lost in 2020. I'm happy to acknowledge this.

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #19

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                            @Copper said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                            The difference was that Ms. Clinton's rants about were taken as truth, no questions asked.

                            Not by me they weren't.

                            Trump won the election in 2016. He lost in 2020. I'm happy to acknowledge this.

                            I acknowledge that too.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @89th said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                              Clinton in 2016 was a BB gun

                              Trump in 2020 was a bazooka

                              So you’re arguing about price as well.

                              All weapons, but not even remotely close to the same class of damage.

                              I’m not justifying what Trump said, I’m pointing out that the election denials go back a fifth of a century.

                              And guess who did it.

                              89th8 Offline
                              89th8 Offline
                              89th
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #20

                              @George-K said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                              @89th said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                              Clinton in 2016 was a BB gun

                              Trump in 2020 was a bazooka

                              So you’re arguing about price as well.

                              All weapons, but not even remotely close to the same class of damage.

                              I’m not justifying what Trump said, I’m pointing out that the election denials go back a fifth of a century.

                              And guess who did it.

                              Bro, the 1876 election was vastly more controversial than anything we’ve seen in the 150 years since.

                              Yes I called you bro.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                @Copper said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                The difference was that Ms. Clinton's rants about were taken as truth, no questions asked.

                                Not by me they weren't.

                                Trump won the election in 2016. He lost in 2020. I'm happy to acknowledge this.

                                I acknowledge that too.

                                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #21

                                @Horace said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                @Copper said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                The difference was that Ms. Clinton's rants about were taken as truth, no questions asked.

                                Not by me they weren't.

                                Trump won the election in 2016. He lost in 2020. I'm happy to acknowledge this.

                                I acknowledge that too.

                                You don't seem happy to acknowledge it. I was really happy when that fat orange douchebag lost. I laughed like a drain.

                                I know, it's a bit unseemly. Still, it was funny.

                                I was only joking

                                HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Horace said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                  @Copper said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                  The difference was that Ms. Clinton's rants about were taken as truth, no questions asked.

                                  Not by me they weren't.

                                  Trump won the election in 2016. He lost in 2020. I'm happy to acknowledge this.

                                  I acknowledge that too.

                                  You don't seem happy to acknowledge it. I was really happy when that fat orange douchebag lost. I laughed like a drain.

                                  I know, it's a bit unseemly. Still, it was funny.

                                  HoraceH Offline
                                  HoraceH Offline
                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #22

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                  @Horace said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                  @Copper said in Minority Leader welcomes Minority Leader:

                                  The difference was that Ms. Clinton's rants about were taken as truth, no questions asked.

                                  Not by me they weren't.

                                  Trump won the election in 2016. He lost in 2020. I'm happy to acknowledge this.

                                  I acknowledge that too.

                                  You don't seem happy to acknowledge it. I was really happy when that fat orange douchebag lost. I laughed like a drain.

                                  I know, it's a bit unseemly. Still, it was funny.

                                  I’m easily three times as happy as you are to acknowledge it.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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