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  • HoraceH Horace

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

    "People with Jewish last names". You could almost see him thinking "Oh fuck, let's just go ahead and say it....."

    He was making the distinction between people who claim a Jewish identity but who don't lift a finger to subscribe to the religion, and believers.

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    @Horace said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

    He was making the distinction between people who claim a Jewish identity but who don't lift a finger to subscribe to the religion, and believers.

    Yeah, he was talking about the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion. And then basically saying that the Jewish race has too much power.

    I have to say, it still sounded kinda' anti-semitic to me.

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Horace said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

      He was making the distinction between people who claim a Jewish identity but who don't lift a finger to subscribe to the religion, and believers.

      Yeah, he was talking about the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion. And then basically saying that the Jewish race has too much power.

      I have to say, it still sounded kinda' anti-semitic to me.

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

      @Horace said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

      He was making the distinction between people who claim a Jewish identity but who don't lift a finger to subscribe to the religion, and believers.

      Yeah, he was talking about the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion. And then basically saying that the Jewish race has too much power.

      I'm glad we can take time off from virtuous accusations that white males have too much power, to be clear that accusations that certain subsets of those white males have too much power, are unconscionable.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        "People with Jewish last names". You could almost see him thinking "Oh fuck, let's just go ahead and say it....."

        Bloody hell, guys. My surname is right out of the old testament - one of, if not the first, you might say.

        Does that description apply to me?

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        Jolly
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

        "People with Jewish last names". You could almost see him thinking "Oh fuck, let's just go ahead and say it....."

        Bloody hell, guys. My surname is right out of the old testament - one of, if not the first, you might say.

        Does that description apply to me?

        Your surname is Yahweh?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

          "People with Jewish last names". You could almost see him thinking "Oh fuck, let's just go ahead and say it....."

          Bloody hell, guys. My surname is right out of the old testament - one of, if not the first, you might say.

          Does that description apply to me?

          Your surname is Yahweh?

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          @Jolly said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

          "People with Jewish last names". You could almost see him thinking "Oh fuck, let's just go ahead and say it....."

          Bloody hell, guys. My surname is right out of the old testament - one of, if not the first, you might say.

          Does that description apply to me?

          Your surname is Yahweh?

          Word!

          I was only joking

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            89th
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            What an odd subject to discuss.

            Do Jews (or those with Jewish heritage/names) control a good portion of the financial industry, and entertainment industry? Yes. Does that result in some networking (or dare I say, nepotism?), I'm sure in many cases, yes. Does that mean there is a CABAL (there, I said it! @Aqua-Letifer) or exploitation or jewish slave ships or whatever? No.

            Honestly, I'm not sure what the debate is about here. Are we talking about Kanye's statement that Hitler did some good? I'm sure he did. He also was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions.

            Guess I'm part of the problem, let's stop giving oxygen to these weird extreme discussions.

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              We are not at a level of cultural advancement that would allow us to discuss cultures rationally. We start with good/bad conclusions, and work backwards from them. And I am not talking about the bigots and racists and how they think and talk. I am talking about all acceptable virtuous public discussion, participated in by people who have spent their lives steering clear of bigotry and racism, at least by the rules fed to them by the progressive popular culture they live in.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Horace said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                He was making the distinction between people who claim a Jewish identity but who don't lift a finger to subscribe to the religion, and believers.

                Yeah, he was talking about the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion. And then basically saying that the Jewish race has too much power.

                I have to say, it still sounded kinda' anti-semitic to me.

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                Yeah, he was talking about the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion. And then basically saying that the Jewish race has too much power.

                I can understand the guy getting confused

                Say the white race has too much power and you are a hero.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Jolly said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                  "People with Jewish last names". You could almost see him thinking "Oh fuck, let's just go ahead and say it....."

                  Bloody hell, guys. My surname is right out of the old testament - one of, if not the first, you might say.

                  Does that description apply to me?

                  Your surname is Yahweh?

                  Word!

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                  Word!

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Jolly said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                    "People with Jewish last names". You could almost see him thinking "Oh fuck, let's just go ahead and say it....."

                    Bloody hell, guys. My surname is right out of the old testament - one of, if not the first, you might say.

                    Does that description apply to me?

                    Your surname is Yahweh?

                    Word!

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                    @Jolly said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Wow, it’s like they all want to say it:

                    "People with Jewish last names". You could almost see him thinking "Oh fuck, let's just go ahead and say it....."

                    Bloody hell, guys. My surname is right out of the old testament - one of, if not the first, you might say.

                    Does that description apply to me?

                    Your surname is Yahweh?

                    Word!

                    Your name is Logos?

                    Elbows up!

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                      George K
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                      #21

                      The thread: ⬇

                      If Joe Biden genuinely cared about antisemitism, then he would have unequivocally rejected Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Al Sharpton, etc. etc.

                      He only cares because Donald Trump elevated Kanye West in the political world by opening his doors to him and his parasitic “advisers.”

                      The same is true on the right also. Many Republicans condemn antisemitism, but will happily hand the microphone to Marjorie Taylor Greene (or even Kanye West before he went full-on Hitler fan girl).

                      Why?

                      Because politics matters more than fighting antisemitism.
                      However, “silence is complicity” is only true for those who are already involved.

                      The average person is not morally obligated to speak out against Kanye West, Ilhan Omar, Marjorie Taylor Greene or any other type of antisemite.

                      However, if you condemn Kanye West but not Ilhan Omar, or Ilhan Omar but not Kanye West, then your silence is complicit, because one type of antisemitism apparently deserves your condemnation while another does not.

                      Moreover, those who initially defended Kanye West (whether downplaying his antisemitism, disregarding his antisemitism, or gaslighting Jews as dishonest for protesting his antisemitism), you are obligated to either explain why things have changed, or defend your earlier position.

                      For those people, their silence is utterly deafening.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Horace
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                        #22

                        The thing about opportunism is that it’s so deeply baked into human psychology that it takes some insight and intentional effort to even realize you’re employing it. But since the opportunism is by definition personally beneficial, the motivation to make that effort is not there. The motivation would have to come from a desire to be a legitimately principled human being. But there really isn’t any social profit in that.

                        Education is extremely important.

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