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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    She’s demanding the cops put themselves in impossibly dangerous positions. Lots of mattering black lives will be lost from the police pullback she is demanding.

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    Loki
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    @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

    She’s demanding the cops put themselves in impossibly dangerous positions. Lots of mattering black lives will be lost from the police pullback she is demanding.

    This is a good point. I don’t care who you are, it’s an existential threat to get rid of the police and they have to hate their careers right now.

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      Horace
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      This deadly tyranny against people who punch cops and steal their tasers must end.

      Education is extremely important.

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        @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

        A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

        Did you watch the video George posted?

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        @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

        @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

        A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

        Did you watch the video George posted?

        Why do you ask? Was 89th's description inaccurate to your viewing of the video?

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

          @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

          A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

          Did you watch the video George posted?

          Why do you ask? Was 89th's description inaccurate to your viewing of the video?

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          @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

          @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

          @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

          A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

          Did you watch the video George posted?

          Why do you ask? Was 89th's description inaccurate to your viewing of the video?

          Seeing the video provides context to the individual who died. He’s a typical DUI trying to bargain in his way out, low tension, and makes a fateful decision to try and run and even worse to shoot the taser to aid in his escape. The killing him in return is uncomfortable to watch, not sure what I may have done as a cop with my adrenaline pump doing it’s thing.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            This deadly tyranny against people who punch cops and steal their tasers must end.

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            @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

            This deadly tyranny against people who punch cops and steal their tasers must end.

            Probably much worse outcomes with white people but just shut up about that.

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              I can't find it right now, but last night I read an article saying that a court ruled that the police are justified in using deadly force if the (alleged) perp is threatening with a taser.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                I can't find it right now, but last night I read an article saying that a court ruled that the police are justified in using deadly force if the (alleged) perp is threatening with a taser.

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                @George-K said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                I can't find it right now, but last night I read an article saying that a court ruled that the police are justified in using deadly force if the (alleged) perp is threatening with a taser.

                But - but - but we have video!

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • L Loki

                  @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                  This deadly tyranny against people who punch cops and steal their tasers must end.

                  Probably much worse outcomes with white people but just shut up about that.

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                  @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                  @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                  This deadly tyranny against people who punch cops and steal their tasers must end.

                  Probably much worse outcomes with white people but just shut up about that.

                  I don't know about much worse, but similar. Certainly, to the extent a cop wanted to shoot someone and keep their job, they would prefer to shoot a white person these days.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Jolly
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                    Death by stupidity. The guy would be alive this morning, had he acted as he should have.

                    But...The black community -for the most part - has absolutely no respect for authority, particularly cops. Children see their parents turn a blind eye to criminal behavior and even lie to cops, because it's US against THEM.

                    This guy died because of his own stupid actions and those actions were programmed as a child...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                      @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                      @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                      A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

                      Did you watch the video George posted?

                      Why do you ask? Was 89th's description inaccurate to your viewing of the video?

                      Seeing the video provides context to the individual who died. He’s a typical DUI trying to bargain in his way out, low tension, and makes a fateful decision to try and run and even worse to shoot the taser to aid in his escape. The killing him in return is uncomfortable to watch, not sure what I may have done as a cop with my adrenaline pump doing it’s thing.

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                      @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                      @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                      @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                      @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                      A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

                      Did you watch the video George posted?

                      Why do you ask? Was 89th's description inaccurate to your viewing of the video?

                      Seeing the video provides context to the individual who died. He’s a typical DUI trying to bargain in his way out, low tension, and makes a fateful decision to try and run and even worse to shoot the taser to aid in his escape. The killing him in return is uncomfortable to watch, not sure what I may have done as a cop with my adrenaline pump doing it’s thing.

                      If we want a police force who can be expected not to do that sort of thing, we need an unarmed police force.

                      I'm pretty sure that every sane human being I've ever met would consider it a life-risking activity, to punch a cop and steal his taser and point it at him. I will be interested to see progressive opinion over this incident.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Death by stupidity. The guy would be alive this morning, had he acted as he should have.

                        But...The black community -for the most part - has absolutely no respect for authority, particularly cops. Children see their parents turn a blind eye to criminal behavior and even lie to cops, because it's US against THEM.

                        This guy died because of his own stupid actions and those actions were programmed as a child...

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                        Horace
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                        @Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                        Death by stupidity. The guy would be alive this morning, had he acted as he should have.

                        But...The black community -for the most part - has absolutely no respect for authority, particularly cops. Children see their parents turn a blind eye to criminal behavior and even lie to cops, because it's US against THEM.

                        This guy died because of his own stupid actions and those actions were programmed as a child...

                        The left has taught them that. Every single high status white progressive who wants to teach every black person born in this country that white cops want to murder them, is participating in large scale psychological torture of the black community.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          Death by stupidity. The guy would be alive this morning, had he acted as he should have.

                          But...The black community -for the most part - has absolutely no respect for authority, particularly cops. Children see their parents turn a blind eye to criminal behavior and even lie to cops, because it's US against THEM.

                          This guy died because of his own stupid actions and those actions were programmed as a child...

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                          George K
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                          @Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                          Death by stupidity. The guy would be alive this morning, had he acted as he should have.

                          Point a weapon at a cop, and bad things will happen.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • L Loki

                            @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                            @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                            @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                            A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

                            Did you watch the video George posted?

                            Why do you ask? Was 89th's description inaccurate to your viewing of the video?

                            Seeing the video provides context to the individual who died. He’s a typical DUI trying to bargain in his way out, low tension, and makes a fateful decision to try and run and even worse to shoot the taser to aid in his escape. The killing him in return is uncomfortable to watch, not sure what I may have done as a cop with my adrenaline pump doing it’s thing.

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                            @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                            @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                            @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                            @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                            A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

                            Did you watch the video George posted?

                            Why do you ask? Was 89th's description inaccurate to your viewing of the video?

                            Seeing the video provides context to the individual who died. He’s a typical DUI trying to bargain in his way out, low tension, and makes a fateful decision to try and run and even worse to shoot the taser to aid in his escape. The killing him in return is uncomfortable to watch, not sure what I may have done as a cop with my adrenaline pump doing it’s thing.

                            First he made a fateful decision to struggle and go for the cop’s weapon.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              jon-nyc
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                              They torched the Wendy’s.

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                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                I saw this headlined at CNN as "protests turn fiery", presumably in an effort to avoid the R word.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                  @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                  @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                  @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                  A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

                                  Did you watch the video George posted?

                                  Why do you ask? Was 89th's description inaccurate to your viewing of the video?

                                  Seeing the video provides context to the individual who died. He’s a typical DUI trying to bargain in his way out, low tension, and makes a fateful decision to try and run and even worse to shoot the taser to aid in his escape. The killing him in return is uncomfortable to watch, not sure what I may have done as a cop with my adrenaline pump doing it’s thing.

                                  First he made a fateful decision to struggle and go for the cop’s weapon.

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                                  Horace
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                  @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                  @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                  @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                  @89th said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                  A man fighting cops, stealing their taser, running away and turning and pointing the taser at the cops...gee, what do you think would happen if YOU did that, black or white or any color?

                                  Did you watch the video George posted?

                                  Why do you ask? Was 89th's description inaccurate to your viewing of the video?

                                  Seeing the video provides context to the individual who died. He’s a typical DUI trying to bargain in his way out, low tension, and makes a fateful decision to try and run and even worse to shoot the taser to aid in his escape. The killing him in return is uncomfortable to watch, not sure what I may have done as a cop with my adrenaline pump doing it’s thing.

                                  First he made a fateful decision to struggle and go for the cop’s weapon.

                                  for values of "struggle" equal to "punch in the face".

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Death by stupidity. The guy would be alive this morning, had he acted as he should have.

                                    But...The black community -for the most part - has absolutely no respect for authority, particularly cops. Children see their parents turn a blind eye to criminal behavior and even lie to cops, because it's US against THEM.

                                    This guy died because of his own stupid actions and those actions were programmed as a child...

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                                    @Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                    Death by stupidity. The guy would be alive this morning, had he acted as he should have.

                                    The anticipation of martyrdom is a factor here as well. Martyrdom has been deeply motivating to humans forever. We're all going to die anyway, right?

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Maybe more can be learned elsewhere and I'm not finding it, but what seems to be known is that Brooks was asleep (passed out) in the drive-through, two cops came and gave him a sobriety test, which he failed. So at that point at least, he was in police custody. Then a drunk man appropriates a taser from one of the cops and takes off running, then turns and threatens the chasing cop with the taser, and the cop shoots him.

                                      Doesn't it seem like there are parts of this story that don't quite hang together?

                                      I'm not trying to build a case here. If what we know is what happened, then so be it. It just occurs to me that from what we know, either Brooks was an unusually alert drunk or the cops were half asleep.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                        Maybe more can be learned elsewhere and I'm not finding it, but what seems to be known is that Brooks was asleep (passed out) in the drive-through, two cops came and gave him a sobriety test, which he failed. So at that point at least, he was in police custody. Then a drunk man appropriates a taser from one of the cops and takes off running, then turns and threatens the chasing cop with the taser, and the cop shoots him.

                                        Doesn't it seem like there are parts of this story that don't quite hang together?

                                        I'm not trying to build a case here. If what we know is what happened, then so be it. It just occurs to me that from what we know, either Brooks was an unusually alert drunk or the cops were half asleep.

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                                        @Catseye3 said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                        Maybe more can be learned elsewhere and I'm not finding it, but what seems to be known is that Brooks was asleep (passed out) in the drive-through, two cops came and gave him a sobriety test, which he failed. So at that point at least, he was in police custody. Then a drunk man appropriates a taser from one of the cops and takes off running, then turns and threatens the chasing cop with the taser, and the cop shoots him.

                                        Doesn't it seem like there are parts of this story that don't quite hang together?

                                        I'm not trying to build a case here. If what we know is what happened, then so be it. It just occurs to me that from what we know, either Brooks was an unusually alert drunk or the cops were half asleep.

                                        I’ve seen that level of drunkness before. Enough to appear like reasoning is taking place, and to some extent true, but also some horrible decision making. Was the cops decision to shoot impulsive, I really don’t know. To say if the guy was white would he have been shot, I think whoever makes that judgement is making stuff up.

                                        Right now how the police chief loses their job over this is way beyond me.

                                        I wouldn’t put this up as evidence of racism nor best practice for police.

                                        One thing I do believe is if police start quitting in droves there will be many excess black deaths.

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                                        • L Loki

                                          @Catseye3 said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                          Maybe more can be learned elsewhere and I'm not finding it, but what seems to be known is that Brooks was asleep (passed out) in the drive-through, two cops came and gave him a sobriety test, which he failed. So at that point at least, he was in police custody. Then a drunk man appropriates a taser from one of the cops and takes off running, then turns and threatens the chasing cop with the taser, and the cop shoots him.

                                          Doesn't it seem like there are parts of this story that don't quite hang together?

                                          I'm not trying to build a case here. If what we know is what happened, then so be it. It just occurs to me that from what we know, either Brooks was an unusually alert drunk or the cops were half asleep.

                                          I’ve seen that level of drunkness before. Enough to appear like reasoning is taking place, and to some extent true, but also some horrible decision making. Was the cops decision to shoot impulsive, I really don’t know. To say if the guy was white would he have been shot, I think whoever makes that judgement is making stuff up.

                                          Right now how the police chief loses their job over this is way beyond me.

                                          I wouldn’t put this up as evidence of racism nor best practice for police.

                                          One thing I do believe is if police start quitting in droves there will be many excess black deaths.

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                                          @Loki said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                                          One thing I do believe is if police start quitting in droves there will be many excess black deaths.

                                          None the media will report on, and none that will matter to white progressives.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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