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    89th
    wrote on 28 Oct 2022, 11:38 last edited by
    #174

    Yup, very much noticeable at the grocery store.

    It's also a shame how prices have gone up for everything else, even if they aren't impacted by supply chain or other reasons. It's a game of "I can charge more because my neighbor is charging more". It's part of the free market game... we enjoyed over a decade of low rates, low inflation, strong growth, and now the pendulum is swinging back.

    @Axtremus A McD's meal basically costs $10 at this point. For a family of four, it's cheaper now to order take-out from Applebees, or a Chinese restaurant.

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      George K
      wrote on 31 Oct 2022, 11:50 last edited by
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      Eurozone Inflation Rate Rises to 10.7% as Recession Looms

      The annual rate of consumer-price inflation in the eurozone increased to double digits in October, reaching a record and highlighting the challenges facing the European Central Bank after it signaled a coming slowdown in the pace of its rate increases.

      The broad measure of consumer prices has risen sharply since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Moscow’s decision to throttle natural gas supplies to Europe to undermine Western support for Kyiv. By mid-September, Russia had cut its supplies to 80% of their year-earlier total.

      Europe has had to look elsewhere for gas supplies, and paid much higher prices. While storage levels are now high, and gas prices on world markets have fallen from their peaks, household energy bills lag behind those moves and are much higher than a year earlier, as are food prices.

      As a result of these pressures, inflation in the region has overtaken the level in the U.S. Now it is fueling demand for higher pay in the most affected countries, which could in turn feed into further price rises.

      The European Union’s statistics agency Monday said consumer prices were 10.7% higher in October than a year earlier, the fastest rate of increase since records began in 1997, two years before the euro was launched. However, national records go back further, and Germany’s measure of inflation was the highest since December 1951.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        31 Oct 2022, 11:50

        Eurozone Inflation Rate Rises to 10.7% as Recession Looms

        The annual rate of consumer-price inflation in the eurozone increased to double digits in October, reaching a record and highlighting the challenges facing the European Central Bank after it signaled a coming slowdown in the pace of its rate increases.

        The broad measure of consumer prices has risen sharply since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Moscow’s decision to throttle natural gas supplies to Europe to undermine Western support for Kyiv. By mid-September, Russia had cut its supplies to 80% of their year-earlier total.

        Europe has had to look elsewhere for gas supplies, and paid much higher prices. While storage levels are now high, and gas prices on world markets have fallen from their peaks, household energy bills lag behind those moves and are much higher than a year earlier, as are food prices.

        As a result of these pressures, inflation in the region has overtaken the level in the U.S. Now it is fueling demand for higher pay in the most affected countries, which could in turn feed into further price rises.

        The European Union’s statistics agency Monday said consumer prices were 10.7% higher in October than a year earlier, the fastest rate of increase since records began in 1997, two years before the euro was launched. However, national records go back further, and Germany’s measure of inflation was the highest since December 1951.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 1 Nov 2022, 02:01 last edited by
        #176

        @George-K Blame it on President Biden!! LOL

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          1 Nov 2022, 02:01

          @George-K Blame it on President Biden!! LOL

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          Jolly
          wrote on 1 Nov 2022, 02:04 last edited by
          #177

          @taiwan_girl Don't worry, we will.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Mik
            wrote on 1 Nov 2022, 02:08 last edited by
            #178

            Every single thing at the grocery store is up at least 50%.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • 8 89th
              28 Oct 2022, 11:38

              Yup, very much noticeable at the grocery store.

              It's also a shame how prices have gone up for everything else, even if they aren't impacted by supply chain or other reasons. It's a game of "I can charge more because my neighbor is charging more". It's part of the free market game... we enjoyed over a decade of low rates, low inflation, strong growth, and now the pendulum is swinging back.

              @Axtremus A McD's meal basically costs $10 at this point. For a family of four, it's cheaper now to order take-out from Applebees, or a Chinese restaurant.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 1 Nov 2022, 02:27 last edited by
              #179

              @89th said in Inflation:

              Yup, very much noticeable at the grocery store.

              It's also a shame how prices have gone up for everything else, even if they aren't impacted by supply chain or other reasons. It's a game of "I can charge more because my neighbor is charging more".

              Uhm, no. I expected a little more out of you.

              1. EVERYTHING is effected by the cost of diesel. There’s not a single product that isn’t.

              2. Even if you don’t have a product that’s price has been impacted by supply line or fuel costs, EVERYTHING is still impacted by wage inflation. Wages are skyrocketing. Now that Starbucks Baristas are making $20 per hour, I have to pay my piano movers $40 an hour since their jobs are for more physically demanding and require far more training and skill. That means my rates for delivery have to go up from $250 per upright piano delivery to $325. By the time I’m done paying them, their employment taxes, and the elevated fuel costs, I’m making less per delivery than I was a year ago at $250.

              3. Even if your product wasn’t disrupted by supply issues… Even if your product and services weren’t effected by wage inflation… Even if your product and services weren’t effected by the cost of diesel… We’re going into a period of incredible inflation and economic stagnation. In those economic conditions a business has to improve and protect their profit margins. They will have to get by with less business overall…

              The Brad

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              • L LuFins Dad
                1 Nov 2022, 02:27

                @89th said in Inflation:

                Yup, very much noticeable at the grocery store.

                It's also a shame how prices have gone up for everything else, even if they aren't impacted by supply chain or other reasons. It's a game of "I can charge more because my neighbor is charging more".

                Uhm, no. I expected a little more out of you.

                1. EVERYTHING is effected by the cost of diesel. There’s not a single product that isn’t.

                2. Even if you don’t have a product that’s price has been impacted by supply line or fuel costs, EVERYTHING is still impacted by wage inflation. Wages are skyrocketing. Now that Starbucks Baristas are making $20 per hour, I have to pay my piano movers $40 an hour since their jobs are for more physically demanding and require far more training and skill. That means my rates for delivery have to go up from $250 per upright piano delivery to $325. By the time I’m done paying them, their employment taxes, and the elevated fuel costs, I’m making less per delivery than I was a year ago at $250.

                3. Even if your product wasn’t disrupted by supply issues… Even if your product and services weren’t effected by wage inflation… Even if your product and services weren’t effected by the cost of diesel… We’re going into a period of incredible inflation and economic stagnation. In those economic conditions a business has to improve and protect their profit margins. They will have to get by with less business overall…

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                Horace
                wrote on 1 Nov 2022, 02:45 last edited by
                #180

                @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                @89th said in Inflation:

                Yup, very much noticeable at the grocery store.

                It's also a shame how prices have gone up for everything else, even if they aren't impacted by supply chain or other reasons. It's a game of "I can charge more because my neighbor is charging more".

                Uhm, no. I expected a little more out of you.

                Me too, 89th. I expected more out of you too. I will never stop expecting more of you. It’s how you know I care.

                #ToughLove

                Education is extremely important.

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                  15 Oct 2022, 17:15

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                  Remember the Farm Bureau’s .14 cent 4th of July?

                  They’re back…

                  https://www.fb.org/newsroom/farm-bureau-survey-shows-thanksgiving-dinner-cost-up-14

                  Can’t wait to see this year’s number.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 20:30 last edited by
                  #181

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                  Remember the Farm Bureau’s .14 cent 4th of July?

                  They’re back…

                  https://www.fb.org/newsroom/farm-bureau-survey-shows-thanksgiving-dinner-cost-up-14

                  Can’t wait to see this year’s number.

                  https://www.fb.org/newsroom/farm-bureau-survey-shows-thanksgiving-dinner-cost-up-20

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                  jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply 21 Nov 2022, 20:35
                  • G George K
                    21 Nov 2022, 20:30

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                    Remember the Farm Bureau’s .14 cent 4th of July?

                    They’re back…

                    https://www.fb.org/newsroom/farm-bureau-survey-shows-thanksgiving-dinner-cost-up-14

                    Can’t wait to see this year’s number.

                    https://www.fb.org/newsroom/farm-bureau-survey-shows-thanksgiving-dinner-cost-up-20

                    image.png

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 20:35 last edited by jon-nyc
                    #182

                    @George-K

                    Here that Turkey is $11, which brings the total to $53. Which means it’s a hair less expensive than 2021

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Mik
                      wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 20:48 last edited by
                      #183

                      Bet that $11 turkey sucks.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • M Mik
                        21 Nov 2022, 20:48

                        Bet that $11 turkey sucks.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 20:57 last edited by
                        #184

                        Shady brook farms, it won’t be bad.

                        I think stop and shop has it as a loss leader hoping we’ll get everything else there.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 20:59 last edited by
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                          Of course, it IS turkey, so it can only be so good. Not my favorite fowl.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            George K
                            wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 21:13 last edited by
                            #186

                            Frozen

                            Butterball at Jewel is 99¢ a pound here.
                            "Open Nature" is $2.19.
                            "Jennie-O" is 59¢.

                            Kroger is 59¢
                            Butterball is 88¢ (interesting)

                            Fresh Butterball is $1.99

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 21:17 last edited by
                              #187

                              This was fresh.

                              Also, it’s $2.49/lb without the store discount club membership

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                21 Nov 2022, 20:35

                                @George-K

                                Here that Turkey is $11, which brings the total to $53. Which means it’s a hair less expensive than 2021

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 02:04 last edited by
                                #188

                                @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

                                @George-K

                                Here that Turkey is $11, which brings the total to $53. Which means it’s a hair less expensive than 2021

                                What’s the size?

                                The Brad

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                                • L LuFins Dad
                                  22 Nov 2022, 02:04

                                  @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

                                  @George-K

                                  Here that Turkey is $11, which brings the total to $53. Which means it’s a hair less expensive than 2021

                                  What’s the size?

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 02:24 last edited by
                                  #189

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

                                  @George-K

                                  Here that Turkey is $11, which brings the total to $53. Which means it’s a hair less expensive than 2021

                                  What’s the size?

                                  @jon-nyc said the turkey is $2.49/lb

                                  If the turkey is $11.00, well that's a 4.4 lb turkey.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    22 Nov 2022, 02:04

                                    @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

                                    @George-K

                                    Here that Turkey is $11, which brings the total to $53. Which means it’s a hair less expensive than 2021

                                    What’s the size?

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 02:31 last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #190

                                    @LuFins-Dad

                                    No, if got it for 69c a pound using my store card. It’s 13 lbs.

                                    It would have been 2.49/lb without my store card.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                      22 Nov 2022, 02:31

                                      @LuFins-Dad

                                      No, if got it for 69c a pound using my store card. It’s 13 lbs.

                                      It would have been 2.49/lb without my store card.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 02:44 last edited by George K
                                      #191

                                      @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

                                      It would have been 2.49/lb without my store card.

                                      Or about $40.

                                      ETA: The fresh Butterball ($1.99) I posted is more expensive than the chart from the Farm Bureau ($1.81).

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 02:58 last edited by
                                        #192

                                        We spent about $4 a pound for our bird. Organic, non-gmo, free range, and fed truffles every day while listening to Italian Arias…

                                        The Brad

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 03:00 last edited by
                                          #193

                                          By the way, do we feel better if birds are free range? I mean, they are living their best lives when somebody cuts their lives short with an axe…

                                          Birds living in those overcrowded pens? When death comes for them it’s a release… Freedom from their pain and suffering…

                                          The Brad

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