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  • George KG George K

    @89th as I said in T(O)NCR...

    ... one of my surgeon friends, who said, "I'd love to marry my father! There would be no inheritance tax!"

    "Yeah, but you'd have to divorce your wife."

    "Why? We're all consenting adults. Why can't I marry my father, and still be married to my wife?"

    And you commented, back then:

    GK - these are all logical examples if one wants to be fair.

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    @George-K

    And I commented back then that his little loophole has nothing to do with same sex marriage. He could marry his mom and accomplish the same thing.

    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      I don't like it

      Marriage isn't a federal issue.

      Or at least it hasn't been

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        End marriage as a legal construct. That’s the only logical solution.

        Government recognizes marriage because it makes for easier civic governing. Estate planning, custodial rights, and myriad others. They offer tax incentives as procreation serves an important civic function. But since we can’t have anything without it being twisted and argued about until it’s twisted beyond all recognition, then just get rid of it.

        The Brad

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @George-K

          And I commented back then that his little loophole has nothing to do with same sex marriage. He could marry his mom and accomplish the same thing.

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          @jon-nyc said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

          @George-K

          And I commented back then that his little loophole has nothing to do with same sex marriage. He could marry his mom and accomplish the same thing.

          At the time of that conversation, his mother had already died. But your point is valid.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @jon-nyc said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

            @George-K

            And I commented back then that his little loophole has nothing to do with same sex marriage. He could marry his mom and accomplish the same thing.

            At the time of that conversation, his mother had already died. But your point is valid.

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            @George-K said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

            @jon-nyc said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

            @George-K

            And I commented back then that his little loophole has nothing to do with same sex marriage. He could marry his mom and accomplish the same thing.

            At the time of that conversation, his mother had already died. But your point is valid.

            Not when the topic is polygamy, which it is now…

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              End marriage as a legal construct. That’s the only logical solution.

              Government recognizes marriage because it makes for easier civic governing. Estate planning, custodial rights, and myriad others. They offer tax incentives as procreation serves an important civic function. But since we can’t have anything without it being twisted and argued about until it’s twisted beyond all recognition, then just get rid of it.

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              @LuFins-Dad said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

              then just get rid of it.

              Just what Putin and the Chinese want you to do.

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                End marriage as a legal construct. That’s the only logical solution.

                Government recognizes marriage because it makes for easier civic governing. Estate planning, custodial rights, and myriad others. They offer tax incentives as procreation serves an important civic function. But since we can’t have anything without it being twisted and argued about until it’s twisted beyond all recognition, then just get rid of it.

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                @LuFins-Dad said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

                End marriage as a legal construct. That’s the only logical solution.

                Government recognizes marriage because it makes for easier civic governing. Estate planning, custodial rights, and myriad others. They offer tax incentives as procreation serves an important civic function. But since we can’t have anything without it being twisted and argued about until it’s twisted beyond all recognition, then just get rid of it.

                Perhaps, but the concept of "legal couples" would still be something to define, for the various civic/legal reasons you mentioned. Either that, or family and estate attorneys would see a massive increase in work if the government didn't issue marriage certificates.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  @LuFins-Dad said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

                  End marriage as a legal construct. That’s the only logical solution.

                  Government recognizes marriage because it makes for easier civic governing. Estate planning, custodial rights, and myriad others. They offer tax incentives as procreation serves an important civic function. But since we can’t have anything without it being twisted and argued about until it’s twisted beyond all recognition, then just get rid of it.

                  Perhaps, but the concept of "legal couples" would still be something to define, for the various civic/legal reasons you mentioned. Either that, or family and estate attorneys would see a massive increase in work if the government didn't issue marriage certificates.

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  @89th said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

                  End marriage as a legal construct. That’s the only logical solution.

                  Government recognizes marriage because it makes for easier civic governing. Estate planning, custodial rights, and myriad others. They offer tax incentives as procreation serves an important civic function. But since we can’t have anything without it being twisted and argued about until it’s twisted beyond all recognition, then just get rid of it.

                  Perhaps, but the concept of "legal couples" would still be something to define, for the various civic/legal reasons you mentioned.

                  No. Somebody is still going to bitch and whine. It can never be equitable. The only way to make it equitable is to make it crappy for everyone.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    End marriage as a legal construct. That’s the only logical solution.

                    Government recognizes marriage because it makes for easier civic governing. Estate planning, custodial rights, and myriad others. They offer tax incentives as procreation serves an important civic function. But since we can’t have anything without it being twisted and argued about until it’s twisted beyond all recognition, then just get rid of it.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

                    End marriage as a legal construct. That’s the only logical solution.

                    Government recognizes marriage because it makes for easier civic governing. Estate planning, custodial rights, and myriad others. They offer tax incentives as procreation serves an important civic function. But since we can’t have anything without it being twisted and argued about until it’s twisted beyond all recognition, then just get rid of it.

                    Partially right.

                    Marriage should be a construct most advantageous to society. in our case, that would be one man/one woman monogamous marriage.

                    Civil union law could cover any discrepancies.

                    The push behind gay marriage is not any longing for civil rights or equality, it is a cry from a tiny minority that wants acceptance as being "normal".

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      And it is not normal.

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                        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/16/us-mormon-church-gay-marriage-senate-bill

                        The Mormon Church supports the Senate's same-sex marriage bill.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/16/us-mormon-church-gay-marriage-senate-bill

                          The Mormon Church supports the Senate's same-sex marriage bill.

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                          @Axtremus said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/16/us-mormon-church-gay-marriage-senate-bill

                          The Mormon Church supports the Senate's same-sex marriage bill.

                          It wasn't all that long ago that they supported polygamy, so, there's that.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Axtremus said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

                            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/16/us-mormon-church-gay-marriage-senate-bill

                            The Mormon Church supports the Senate's same-sex marriage bill.

                            It wasn't all that long ago that they supported polygamy, so, there's that.

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            @George-K said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

                            @Axtremus said in From Dobbs to Same-Sex Marriage:

                            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/16/us-mormon-church-gay-marriage-senate-bill

                            The Mormon Church supports the Senate's same-sex marriage bill.

                            It wasn't all that long ago that they supported polygamy, so, there's that.

                            Which is probably why they support the bill… They want to slide down that slippery slope…

                            The Brad

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