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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    He was never not this guy.

    I bet he still has Jolly’s vote. And Improv’s. And probably Copper.

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    @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    I bet he still has Jolly’s vote. And Improv’s. And probably Copper.

    It is a bit early.

    If the opponent is Ms. Clinton or Mr. Biden I would almost certainly vote for anyone else.

    In 2016 I thought Ben Carson and Rand Paul were OK.

    Ross Perot was certainly the most fun, I really liked him.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      Depending on the circumstances, maybe.

      It's all about the judges, baby.

      This seems like a yes.

      The spirit of the question wasn’t “are you with him until the end regardless”, rather it was “despite the fact that you have clear alternative(s), is he still your favorite”?

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      @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      Depending on the circumstances, maybe.

      It's all about the judges, baby.

      This seems like a yes.

      The spirit of the question wasn’t “are you with him until the end regardless”, rather it was “despite the fact that you have clear alternative(s), is he still your favorite”?

      That's a definite maybe.

      Starting with the Tea Party and carrying on through Trump, the GOP has morphed and I'd continuing to change.

      Are you aware that Republicans actually won five million more votes than Dems in this Congressional cycle? The problem came in that normally that margin would have translated into more seats won. The post mortem ought to be interesting.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        By the way, if Hershel Walker’s IQ were over 80 he’s be lamenting Trump’s insistence on announcing next week. As it is, though, he probably hasn’t given it much thought.

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        @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        By the way, if Hershel Walker’s IQ were over 80 he’s be lamenting Trump’s insistence on announcing next week. As it is, though, he probably hasn’t given it much thought.

        $12M.

        Most folks with an IQ of 80 don't have a net worth of $12M.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          By the way, if Hershel Walker’s IQ were over 80 he’s be lamenting Trump’s insistence on announcing next week. As it is, though, he probably hasn’t given it much thought.

          $12M.

          Most folks with an IQ of 80 don't have a net worth of $12M.

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          #127

          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          By the way, if Hershel Walker’s IQ were over 80 he’s be lamenting Trump’s insistence on announcing next week. As it is, though, he probably hasn’t given it much thought.

          $12M.

          Most folks with an IQ of 80 don't have a net worth of $12M.

          Sports and entertainment are probably the only way.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            By the way, if Hershel Walker’s IQ were over 80 he’s be lamenting Trump’s insistence on announcing next week. As it is, though, he probably hasn’t given it much thought.

            $12M.

            Most folks with an IQ of 80 don't have a net worth of $12M.

            Sports and entertainment are probably the only way.

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            @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            Sports and entertainment are probably the only way.

            Also crime and politics. But I repeat myself.

            I was only joking

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              By the way, if Hershel Walker’s IQ were over 80 he’s be lamenting Trump’s insistence on announcing next week. As it is, though, he probably hasn’t given it much thought.

              $12M.

              Most folks with an IQ of 80 don't have a net worth of $12M.

              Sports and entertainment are probably the only way.

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              @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              By the way, if Hershel Walker’s IQ were over 80 he’s be lamenting Trump’s insistence on announcing next week. As it is, though, he probably hasn’t given it much thought.

              $12M.

              Most folks with an IQ of 80 don't have a net worth of $12M.

              Sports and entertainment are probably the only way.

              With sports, not at his age. Most are broke within a few years after leaving the game.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                #130

                Anyone know if DeSantis has replied in any way?

                It seems like silently ignoring Trump and going about his business as Governor is the smartest thing he can do. Oh, and stump for walker.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Anyone know if DeSantis has replied in any way?

                  It seems like silently ignoring Trump and going about his business as Governor is the smartest thing he can do. Oh, and stump for walker.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  It seems like silently ignoring Trump and going about his business as Governor is the smartest thing he can do.

                  The added bonus is that being ignored will drive Trump nuts.

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Anyone know if DeSantis has replied in any way?

                    It seems like silently ignoring Trump and going about his business as Governor is the smartest thing he can do. Oh, and stump for walker.

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                    #132

                    @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                    Anyone know if DeSantis has replied in any way?

                    It seems like silently ignoring Trump and going about his business as Governor is the smartest thing he can do. Oh, and stump for walker.

                    It's not wise to argue with a fool. Listeners can't tell which is which.

                    If DeSantis ignores him, Trump will get shriller and shriller to the point no one will listen nor care. He'll create his own ignominy.

                    Regardless of our talents, we can still be our own worst enemy.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      #133

                      Mik:
                      "Regardless of our talents, we can still be our own worst enemy."
                      That is profound, and sums it up so well.
                      And I hear you can cook, too!

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                        Anyone know if DeSantis has replied in any way?

                        It seems like silently ignoring Trump and going about his business as Governor is the smartest thing he can do. Oh, and stump for walker.

                        It's not wise to argue with a fool. Listeners can't tell which is which.

                        If DeSantis ignores him, Trump will get shriller and shriller to the point no one will listen nor care. He'll create his own ignominy.

                        Regardless of our talents, we can still be our own worst enemy.

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                        #134

                        @Mik

                        If DeSantis ignores him, Trump will get shriller and shriller to the point no one will listen nor care. He'll create his own ignominy.

                        I would agree. DeSantis has absolutely nothing to gain at this stage by responding to Trump. The latter is already created his own state of ignominy. Best to give him the spotlight and let him continue to make a fool of himself publicly.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @Mik

                          If DeSantis ignores him, Trump will get shriller and shriller to the point no one will listen nor care. He'll create his own ignominy.

                          I would agree. DeSantis has absolutely nothing to gain at this stage by responding to Trump. The latter is already created his own state of ignominy. Best to give him the spotlight and let him continue to make a fool of himself publicly.

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                          @Renauda said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          let him continue to make a fool of himself publicly

                          Lincoln's quote comes to mind.

                          Even if he didn't really say it.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Oh? What quote?

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Never mind.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #139

                                  Screenshot 2022-11-12 at 5.23.31 PM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Screenshot 2022-11-12 at 5.23.31 PM.png

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                                    @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                    Screenshot 2022-11-12 at 5.23.31 PM.png

                                    Well, there’s Donald, himself…

                                    Joking aside? They are wrong. There ARE some that wouldn’t vote for DeSantis. I bet there are more than a few that would just stay home.

                                    The Brad

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                                      I think you are right. But we have to face that eventually.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        I think you are right. But we have to face that eventually.

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                                        @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        I think you are right. But we have to face that eventually.

                                        I don’t disagree, but Romney and McCain brought in 60,000,000 votes each. Donald brought in 74,000,000 in 2020 and it still wasn’t enough. Biden came in at 80,000,000. What’s the threshold for a Republican victory in a non-Trump Election? Can DeSantis top 80,000,000 if he needs to? 70,000,000? These are questions that do need to be asked.

                                        The Brad

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                                          I think eventually he can. But Trump needs to be backed off or drawn in to support. A bit late for the latter, but two years is a long time.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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