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Trump vs. DeSantis

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Not true.

    Thought Trump did pretty well, by actual measures.

    MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #47

    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    Not true.

    Thought Trump did pretty well, by actual measures.

    He did, but at a cost to the country. Ditch the man, keep the policies.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      Not true.

      Thought Trump did pretty well, by actual measures.

      He did, but at a cost to the country. Ditch the man, keep the policies.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on last edited by
      #48

      @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      Ditch the man, keep the policies.

      What policies would you like to keep?

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #49

        It would seem the party may be moving beyond him. I think alienating DeSantis was a big mistake.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chris-christie-predicts-huge-surprise-in-colorado-senate-race/ar-AA13NU1e?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3c5fe0fada124196a21e964a54b65657

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          Ditch the man, keep the policies.

          What policies would you like to keep?

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #50

          @Axtremus said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          Ditch the man, keep the policies.

          What policies would you like to keep?

          I think we've trod this ground so much that only the very stupid or the very trollish would not understand by now

          I don't think I've ever accused you of being stupid

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            George K
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            #51

            Ben Shapiro:

            "A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

            1. Terrible branding.
            2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              Ben Shapiro:

              "A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

              1. Terrible branding.
              2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."
              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #52

              @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              Ben Shapiro:

              "A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

              1. Terrible branding.
              2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."

              "Hey everybody, remember me? I'm a totally self-absorbed twat!"

              I was only joking

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              • George KG George K

                Ben Shapiro:

                "A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

                1. Terrible branding.
                2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."
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                Catseye3
                wrote on last edited by
                #53

                @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election

                It is not so much no discipline as an inability to view his every utterance as anything other than ultimate power.

                It's a brain thing.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • George KG George K

                  Ben Shapiro:

                  "A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

                  1. Terrible branding.
                  2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."
                  HoraceH Online
                  HoraceH Online
                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #54

                  @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  Ben Shapiro:

                  "A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

                  1. Terrible branding.
                  2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."

                  I'm not sure DeSantis is directionally sanctimonious anyway, even rhetorically. The Disney stuff is anti-sanctimony. There isn't much sanctimony in the trollish transport of the immigrants.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Ben Shapiro:

                    "A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

                    1. Terrible branding.
                    2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #55

                    @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                    Ben Shapiro:

                    "A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

                    1. Terrible branding.
                    2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."

                    Lame Donald made a Lame Joke…

                    Quack Quack Quack

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                    The Brad

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #56

                      When President Trump loses the majority of TNCR, it is time to move on. LOL

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
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                        #57

                        I don't think he ever had the majority of TNCR. He was just preferable to the alternatives for many. I did not vote for him in 2016 but was pleased by most of his policies. He was a better president than I thought until the end.

                        But I don't want him back.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          I don't think he ever had the majority of TNCR. He was just preferable to the alternatives for many. I did not vote for him in 2016 but was pleased by most of his policies. He was a better president than I thought until the end.

                          But I don't want him back.

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #58

                          @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          I don't think he ever had the majority of TNCR. He was just preferable to the alternatives for many. I did not vote for him in 2016 but was pleased by most of his policies. He was a better president than I thought until the end.
                          But I don't want him back.

                          This.

                          Back in 2012, when he first ran for president, I called him a buffoon. I felt that way in 2016, and I didn't vote for him either. The problem with Trump is the buffoonery gets in the way of policy.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #59

                            The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.

                            If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

                            I was only joking

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              I don't think he ever had the majority of TNCR. He was just preferable to the alternatives for many. I did not vote for him in 2016 but was pleased by most of his policies. He was a better president than I thought until the end.
                              But I don't want him back.

                              This.

                              Back in 2012, when he first ran for president, I called him a buffoon. I felt that way in 2016, and I didn't vote for him either. The problem with Trump is the buffoonery gets in the way of policy.

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                              Rainman
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #60

                              @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              I don't think he ever had the majority of TNCR. He was just preferable to the alternatives for many. I did not vote for him in 2016 but was pleased by most of his policies. He was a better president than I thought until the end.
                              But I don't want him back.

                              This.

                              Back in 2012, when he first ran for president, I called him a buffoon. I felt that way in 2016, and I didn't vote for him either. The problem with Trump is the buffoonery gets in the way of policy.

                              Yeah, but Trump will make it about Donald Trump.
                              Same thing, with the same result.
                              Damn.
                              Oh yeah, I forgot, it's been a long time since I made your day. . .
                              BREXIT!!!
                              hehehehe

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                              • RainmanR Rainman

                                @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                I don't think he ever had the majority of TNCR. He was just preferable to the alternatives for many. I did not vote for him in 2016 but was pleased by most of his policies. He was a better president than I thought until the end.
                                But I don't want him back.

                                This.

                                Back in 2012, when he first ran for president, I called him a buffoon. I felt that way in 2016, and I didn't vote for him either. The problem with Trump is the buffoonery gets in the way of policy.

                                Yeah, but Trump will make it about Donald Trump.
                                Same thing, with the same result.
                                Damn.
                                Oh yeah, I forgot, it's been a long time since I made your day. . .
                                BREXIT!!!
                                hehehehe

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #61

                                @Rainman said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                BREXIT!!!
                                hehehehe

                                That's like 4-5 Prime Ministers ago, now.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Horace
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                                  #62

                                  I’m sure Trump will do what he can to make it about himself, and of course the Democrats will, mostly through existential threat messaging. But I doubt the Republican Party will be doing much to make it about Trump.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.

                                    If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #63

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                    The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.
                                    If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

                                    You meant to say Democrats, right? What else have they spoken about for the last 22 months?

                                    image.jpeg

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.
                                      If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

                                      You meant to say Democrats, right? What else have they spoken about for the last 22 months?

                                      image.jpeg

                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #64

                                      @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.
                                      If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

                                      You meant to say Democrats, right? What else have they spoken about for the last 22 months?

                                      image.jpeg

                                      It makes sense for the Dems to make it about him, due to the economy, debt, inflation and so on. They know that if they insult him, he will respond and the whole dialogue becomes about him.

                                      It’s up to the Republicans to break this. Trump sure as hell can’t.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #65

                                        I voted for Trump in 2016. He tried to do what he said he would do, so I voted for him in 2020.

                                        You want the perfect candidate and you'll lie in your deathbed still waiting for that candidate to come along.

                                        I'm pleased with Gorsuch, Barrett and Kavanaugh. Not to mention most of the other 200-some odd appointed judges.

                                        I thought Trump's tax cut was good policy and I think the resulting rising economic tide lifted a lot of boats, particularly in minority communities.

                                        I think Trump got it right on border security and that would have been better on it except for Dems in Congress and their rabid opposition.

                                        I thought the Space Force was the right move, and if done properly will cut down on the office war between the Navy and the Air Force.

                                        I don't agree that Trump screwed up the COVID response. You know what you know when you know it. On that note, I'm willing to overlook some stuff from Biden, particularly early in his Residency.

                                        I find it amazing that Trump's overall Presidency was a success, given the almost total opposition in the media, the absolute whoring out of the FBI and Justice, and the maniacal opposition of the Left.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.
                                          If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

                                          You meant to say Democrats, right? What else have they spoken about for the last 22 months?

                                          image.jpeg

                                          It makes sense for the Dems to make it about him, due to the economy, debt, inflation and so on. They know that if they insult him, he will respond and the whole dialogue becomes about him.

                                          It’s up to the Republicans to break this. Trump sure as hell can’t.

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          #66

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.
                                          If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

                                          You meant to say Democrats, right? What else have they spoken about for the last 22 months?

                                          image.jpeg

                                          It makes sense for the Dems to make it about him, due to the economy, debt, inflation and so on. They know that if they insult him, he will respond and the whole dialogue becomes about him.

                                          It’s up to the Republicans to break this. Trump sure as hell can’t.

                                          Be careful or you can be hoisted on the economic petard.

                                          If we go further in the economic dumpster (I think we will) and Trump can generate nostalgia for the booming economy under his watch, anything is possible. Right now, I think he has a shot at the nomination. As January 6 becomes ancient history and more of a nothing burger, the public (except for people who would never vote for Trump anyway) will place a lot less emphasis on that event, than they will on the current events at the time of the primaries and general election.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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