Trump vs. DeSantis

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

Thought Trump did pretty well, by actual measures.

What are those "actual measures"?

[Mik]

@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

Not true.

Thought Trump did pretty well, by actual measures.

He did, but at a cost to the country. Ditch the man, keep the policies.

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

Ditch the man, keep the policies.

What policies would you like to keep?

[Mik]

It would seem the party may be moving beyond him. I think alienating DeSantis was a big mistake.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chris-christie-predicts-huge-surprise-in-colorado-senate-race/ar-AA13NU1e?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3c5fe0fada124196a21e964a54b65657

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

Ditch the man, keep the policies.

What policies would you like to keep?

I think we've trod this ground so much that only the very stupid or the very trollish would not understand by now

I don't think I've ever accused you of being stupid

[George K]

Ben Shapiro:

"A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

1. Terrible branding.
2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."

[Doctor Phibes]

@George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

Ben Shapiro:

"A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

1. Terrible branding.
2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."

"Hey everybody, remember me? I'm a totally self-absorbed twat!"

[Catseye3]

@George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election

It is not so much no discipline as an inability to view his every utterance as anything other than ultimate power.

It's a brain thing.

[Horace]

@George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

Ben Shapiro:

"A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

1. Terrible branding.
2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."

I'm not sure DeSantis is directionally sanctimonious anyway, even rhetorically. The Disney stuff is anti-sanctimony. There isn't much sanctimony in the trollish transport of the immigrants.

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

Ben Shapiro:

"A few points on "Ron DeSanctimonious":

1. Terrible branding.
2. Reminding everyone you have no discipline by attacking a top gubernatorial candidate popular with the base two days before an election and a week before launching a comeback campaign is...an interesting strategy."

Lame Donald made a Lame Joke…

Quack Quack Quack

[taiwan_girl]

When President Trump loses the majority of TNCR, it is time to move on. LOL

[Mik]

I don't think he ever had the majority of TNCR. He was just preferable to the alternatives for many. I did not vote for him in 2016 but was pleased by most of his policies. He was a better president than I thought until the end.

But I don't want him back.

[George K]

@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

I don't think he ever had the majority of TNCR. He was just preferable to the alternatives for many. I did not vote for him in 2016 but was pleased by most of his policies. He was a better president than I thought until the end.
But I don't want him back.

This.

Back in 2012, when he first ran for president, I called him a buffoon. I felt that way in 2016, and I didn't vote for him either. The problem with Trump is the buffoonery gets in the way of policy.

[Doctor Phibes]

The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.

If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

[Rainman]

@George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

I don't think he ever had the majority of TNCR. He was just preferable to the alternatives for many. I did not vote for him in 2016 but was pleased by most of his policies. He was a better president than I thought until the end.
But I don't want him back.

This.

Back in 2012, when he first ran for president, I called him a buffoon. I felt that way in 2016, and I didn't vote for him either. The problem with Trump is the buffoonery gets in the way of policy.

Yeah, but Trump will make it about Donald Trump.
Same thing, with the same result.
Damn.
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's been a long time since I made your day. . .
BREXIT!!!
hehehehe

[Doctor Phibes]

@Rainman said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

BREXIT!!!
hehehehe

That's like 4-5 Prime Ministers ago, now.

[Horace]

I’m sure Trump will do what he can to make it about himself, and of course the Democrats will, mostly through existential threat messaging. But I doubt the Republican Party will be doing much to make it about Trump.

[George K]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.
If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

You meant to say Democrats, right? What else have they spoken about for the last 22 months?

[Doctor Phibes]

@George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

The Republicans have so many things they could focus on - the economy, debt, inflation, crime, immigration, the list goes on.
If instead they decide to make this election about Donald Trump, then they deserve to lose. By a lot.

You meant to say Democrats, right? What else have they spoken about for the last 22 months?

It makes sense for the Dems to make it about him, due to the economy, debt, inflation and so on. They know that if they insult him, he will respond and the whole dialogue becomes about him.

It’s up to the Republicans to break this. Trump sure as hell can’t.

[Jolly]

I voted for Trump in 2016. He tried to do what he said he would do, so I voted for him in 2020.

You want the perfect candidate and you'll lie in your deathbed still waiting for that candidate to come along.

I'm pleased with Gorsuch, Barrett and Kavanaugh. Not to mention most of the other 200-some odd appointed judges.

I thought Trump's tax cut was good policy and I think the resulting rising economic tide lifted a lot of boats, particularly in minority communities.

I think Trump got it right on border security and that would have been better on it except for Dems in Congress and their rabid opposition.

I thought the Space Force was the right move, and if done properly will cut down on the office war between the Navy and the Air Force.

I don't agree that Trump screwed up the COVID response. You know what you know when you know it. On that note, I'm willing to overlook some stuff from Biden, particularly early in his Residency.

I find it amazing that Trump's overall Presidency was a success, given the almost total opposition in the media, the absolute whoring out of the FBI and Justice, and the maniacal opposition of the Left.