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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    might prefer another Biden term with a Republican Senate and House holding him in check

    You might be right - many of us have been in favor of a "do-nothing" congress for a long time. But, that, not unreasonably, assumes that the GOP holds both chambers in 2024. It also assume, perhaps unreasonably, that Biden will run again.

    Joe ain't runnin', IMO. He's too senile and the Basement Strategy won't work again.

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    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    Joe ain't runnin', IMO. He's too senile and the Basement Strategy won't work again.

    I agree. He's a placeholder.

    But for whom?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Surely not Kamala. She polls worse than he does.

      But she was always a loser.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        If I was DeSantis’ campaign adviser, I would focus my campaign on the following points:

        1. 14 Days to Flatten the Curve, brought to you by the Trump Administration.

        2. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

        3. CRT and Gender Idealogy flourished in schools and curriculum under Trump’s Department of Education…

        Contrast that with DeSantis’ record on these issues…

        By the way, Trump enters the office as a Lame Duck…

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          If I was DeSantis’ campaign adviser, I would focus my campaign on the following points:

          1. 14 Days to Flatten the Curve, brought to you by the Trump Administration.

          2. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

          3. CRT and Gender Idealogy flourished in schools and curriculum under Trump’s Department of Education…

          Contrast that with DeSantis’ record on these issues…

          By the way, Trump enters the office as a Lame Duck…

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

          The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            I would also try to secure some political alliances with some figures that carry some weight in the modern conservative movement but have still tried to keep Trump at arms length. Youngkin, Kemp, etc…

            The Brad

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

              The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

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              @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

              The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

              Meh, there were a LOT of Trump supporters that were lifting their eyebrows and getting a little angry about the Trump giveaways…

              The Brad

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                jon-nyc
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                You’re right, tying it to spending is more politically salient. The base has largely forgotten who Milton Friedman was.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  I would also focus on the fact that Lame Donald couldn’t beat Slow Joe… There may or may not have been shenanigans, but really, it never even should have been close enough for shenanigans…

                  The Brad

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                    I would also try to get Elon on board.

                    The Brad

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                      #24

                      Back to the OP, I’m not sure “DeSanctimonious” has the staying power or the bite of, say, “little Marco” or “low energy” Jeb.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        I would also try to get Elon on board.

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                        I would also try to get Elon on board.

                        Sounds like he already is. He tweeted some months ago the the gop needs to move beyond trump.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                          The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                          The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

                          Jon, how do you suppose a Hillary Clinton administration would have differed in this regard? Would you have expected different monetary decisions?

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                            The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

                            Jon, how do you suppose a Hillary Clinton administration would have differed in this regard? Would you have expected different monetary decisions?

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                            jon-nyc
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                            @Horace You’ve asked this before and the answer remains no.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              I would also try to get Elon on board.

                              Sounds like he already is. He tweeted some months ago the the gop needs to move beyond trump.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              I would also try to get Elon on board.

                              Sounds like he already is. He tweeted some months ago the the gop needs to move beyond trump.

                              And he was and is right. The whole party - nation, really- needs to.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Horace You’ve asked this before and the answer remains no.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                @Horace You’ve asked this before and the answer remains no.

                                Just verifying that the “real connection” between Trump and inflation you claim, is political messaging nonsense, to be stacked with the rest. But thank you for your transparency.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  I would also try to get Elon on board.

                                  Sounds like he already is. He tweeted some months ago the the gop needs to move beyond trump.

                                  And he was and is right. The whole party - nation, really- needs to.

                                  HoraceH Offline
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                                  @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  I would also try to get Elon on board.

                                  Sounds like he already is. He tweeted some months ago the the gop needs to move beyond trump.

                                  And he was and is right. The whole party - nation, really- needs to.

                                  Would be very nice for everybody but those who take Trump seriously. As a political tool and as a lesser of evils, he got out of hand.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    The Brad

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      I would also try to get Elon on board.

                                      Sounds like he already is. He tweeted some months ago the the gop needs to move beyond trump.

                                      And he was and is right. The whole party - nation, really- needs to.

                                      Would be very nice for everybody but those who take Trump seriously. As a political tool and as a lesser of evils, he got out of hand.

                                      MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
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                                      @Horace said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      I would also try to get Elon on board.

                                      Sounds like he already is. He tweeted some months ago the the gop needs to move beyond trump.

                                      And he was and is right. The whole party - nation, really- needs to.

                                      Would be very nice for everybody but those who take Trump seriously. As a political tool and as a lesser of evils, he got out of hand.

                                      And a second term would be worse.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        I saw that last night.

                                        "DeSanctimonious."

                                        I hope Trump doesn't run (but he will because Trump) and I pray the voters of the GOP have enough common sense to not pick him again.

                                        But, as Bill Barr said....

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                                        @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        I saw that last night.

                                        "DeSanctimonious."

                                        So what did DeSantis say or do to piss him off? Refuse to kiss his fat ass?

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Kill your competition young. The Democrats have been trying to kill DeSantis for quite a while, unsuccessfully. I think Trump will reveal his true nature if he tries and lose support.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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