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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    DeSantis ain't runnin'.

    Really? Because he thinks Trump's unstoppable?

    Somewhere I read that his "war chest" has lots and lots of cash that he's not spending for his gubernatorial run.

    He didn't say why, he just said he wasn't running...Who knows, he might change his mind. But right now, internal polling of registered Republicans sez the nomination is Trump's...If he wants it.

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    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    He didn't say why, he just said he wasn't running..

    I missed that.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      I did too.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Dems procrastinated in dealing with the last four Trump years.

        Education is extremely important.

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          As I have said before, the Democrat best chance to win in 2024 will be if President Trump runs again.

          In two years, I think the US (and world economy) will be much better (not because the democrat did anything fantastic, but just because). And as Jolly says, it is about the economy.

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          • George KG George K

            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            He didn't say why, he just said he wasn't running..

            I missed that.

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            @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            He didn't say why, he just said he wasn't running..

            I missed that.

            He specifically didn’t answer the question in the debate with Crist. That tells me he’s at least considering it.

            And while I appreciate your sentiment, George, I think I might prefer another Biden term with a Republican Senate and House holding him in check instead of a Lame Term by Lame Donald.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              He didn't say why, he just said he wasn't running..

              I missed that.

              He specifically didn’t answer the question in the debate with Crist. That tells me he’s at least considering it.

              And while I appreciate your sentiment, George, I think I might prefer another Biden term with a Republican Senate and House holding him in check instead of a Lame Term by Lame Donald.

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              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              might prefer another Biden term with a Republican Senate and House holding him in check

              You might be right - many of us have been in favor of a "do-nothing" congress for a long time. But, that, not unreasonably, assumes that the GOP holds both chambers in 2024. It also assume, perhaps unreasonably, that Biden will run again.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                might prefer another Biden term with a Republican Senate and House holding him in check

                You might be right - many of us have been in favor of a "do-nothing" congress for a long time. But, that, not unreasonably, assumes that the GOP holds both chambers in 2024. It also assume, perhaps unreasonably, that Biden will run again.

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                @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                might prefer another Biden term with a Republican Senate and House holding him in check

                You might be right - many of us have been in favor of a "do-nothing" congress for a long time. But, that, not unreasonably, assumes that the GOP holds both chambers in 2024. It also assume, perhaps unreasonably, that Biden will run again.

                Joe ain't runnin', IMO. He's too senile and the Basement Strategy won't work again.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  might prefer another Biden term with a Republican Senate and House holding him in check

                  You might be right - many of us have been in favor of a "do-nothing" congress for a long time. But, that, not unreasonably, assumes that the GOP holds both chambers in 2024. It also assume, perhaps unreasonably, that Biden will run again.

                  Joe ain't runnin', IMO. He's too senile and the Basement Strategy won't work again.

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                  @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  Joe ain't runnin', IMO. He's too senile and the Basement Strategy won't work again.

                  I agree. He's a placeholder.

                  But for whom?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Surely not Kamala. She polls worse than he does.

                    But she was always a loser.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      If I was DeSantis’ campaign adviser, I would focus my campaign on the following points:

                      1. 14 Days to Flatten the Curve, brought to you by the Trump Administration.

                      2. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                      3. CRT and Gender Idealogy flourished in schools and curriculum under Trump’s Department of Education…

                      Contrast that with DeSantis’ record on these issues…

                      By the way, Trump enters the office as a Lame Duck…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        If I was DeSantis’ campaign adviser, I would focus my campaign on the following points:

                        1. 14 Days to Flatten the Curve, brought to you by the Trump Administration.

                        2. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                        3. CRT and Gender Idealogy flourished in schools and curriculum under Trump’s Department of Education…

                        Contrast that with DeSantis’ record on these issues…

                        By the way, Trump enters the office as a Lame Duck…

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                        1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                        The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          I would also try to secure some political alliances with some figures that carry some weight in the modern conservative movement but have still tried to keep Trump at arms length. Youngkin, Kemp, etc…

                          The Brad

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                            The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                            The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

                            Meh, there were a LOT of Trump supporters that were lifting their eyebrows and getting a little angry about the Trump giveaways…

                            The Brad

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                              You’re right, tying it to spending is more politically salient. The base has largely forgotten who Milton Friedman was.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                I would also focus on the fact that Lame Donald couldn’t beat Slow Joe… There may or may not have been shenanigans, but really, it never even should have been close enough for shenanigans…

                                The Brad

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                                  I would also try to get Elon on board.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Back to the OP, I’m not sure “DeSanctimonious” has the staying power or the bite of, say, “little Marco” or “low energy” Jeb.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      I would also try to get Elon on board.

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      I would also try to get Elon on board.

                                      Sounds like he already is. He tweeted some months ago the the gop needs to move beyond trump.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                                        The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                                        The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

                                        Jon, how do you suppose a Hillary Clinton administration would have differed in this regard? Would you have expected different monetary decisions?

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          1. Trumpflation… How many billions did Lame Donald just give away? ARP was just the icing on the cake baked by the Twitter in Chief.

                                          The real link between Trump and inflation is when his hand-picked Fed chief quadrupled the number of dollars in circulation over a couple of months. Not sure that will resonate with the average primary voter.

                                          Jon, how do you suppose a Hillary Clinton administration would have differed in this regard? Would you have expected different monetary decisions?

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                                          @Horace You’ve asked this before and the answer remains no.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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