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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #462

    Zooming out a bit, I’ve been thinking about how a Musk owned Twitter will net out. I don’t have any major conclusions but a few observations at this point.

    1. I think he’s going to be constrained by his advertisers to a much greater extent than his newest fans believe.

    2. At some point he’ll likely realize that his own trollishness is not good for the brand.

    3. He might even see some backlash extend to Tesla.

    4. That doesn’t mean he’ll be able to control himself though. He seems to be pretty impulse driven.

    5. I think he’ll end up taking it public again at some point, perhaps retaining controlling interest through dual share classes. My over/under for such a move is 3 years.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #464

        That’s a little funny.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #465

          As if on cue….

          Funny he blames activists rather than his own past statements and current trollishness.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            #466

            His profile location says "Hell" and his job is "Twitter Complaint Hotline Director" or something lol

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Zooming out a bit, I’ve been thinking about how a Musk owned Twitter will net out. I don’t have any major conclusions but a few observations at this point.

              1. I think he’s going to be constrained by his advertisers to a much greater extent than his newest fans believe.

              2. At some point he’ll likely realize that his own trollishness is not good for the brand.

              3. He might even see some backlash extend to Tesla.

              4. That doesn’t mean he’ll be able to control himself though. He seems to be pretty impulse driven.

              5. I think he’ll end up taking it public again at some point, perhaps retaining controlling interest through dual share classes. My over/under for such a move is 3 years.

              HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #467

              @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

              Zooming out a bit, I’ve been thinking about how a Musk owned Twitter will net out. I don’t have any major conclusions but a few observations at this point.

              1. I think he’s going to be constrained by his advertisers to a much greater extent than his newest fans believe.

              2. At some point he’ll likely realize that his own trollishness is not good for the brand.

              3. He might even see some backlash extend to Tesla.

              4. That doesn’t mean he’ll be able to control himself though. He seems to be pretty impulse driven.

              5. I think he’ll end up taking it public again at some point, perhaps retaining controlling interest through dual share classes. My over/under for such a move is 3 years.

              You are in a long line of people who don’t particularly like him and predict his characteristics will be his downfall. Most of those in front of you in line have long since been proven right about his personality and wrong about his success. We will see about this time.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #468

                Maybe you’re projecting from your “Tesla’s on its death rattle” days?

                I’ve always been a fan of Elon I don’t predict his downfall. I even find his trolling to be funny, which is why I repost some of it here. He’s just going to be constrained is all, and I don’t know if he has the temperament to deal with it.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Maybe you’re projecting from your “Tesla’s on its death rattle” days?

                  I’ve always been a fan of Elon I don’t predict his downfall. I even find his trolling to be funny, which is why I repost some of it here. He’s just going to be constrained is all, and I don’t know if he has the temperament to deal with it.

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                  Maybe you’re projecting from your “Tesla’s on its death rattle” days?

                  I’ve always been a fan of Elon I don’t predict his downfall.

                  At one time I was reporting here some discussion I was following about predictions of Tesla’s downfall. In fact the only money I ever put on Tesla was on the long side, which I exited at a small profit.

                  My guess is that you will be increasingly careful about admitting to being a fan of Elon, and that for all appearances, you will be agreeing with those who consider him a threat.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #470

                    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/viewtopic.php?p=1467233#p1467233

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/viewtopic.php?p=1467233#p1467233

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                      @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                      https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/viewtopic.php?p=1467233#p1467233

                      Yes the FSD thing has always been one of Musk's more impossible claims. I'm happy for you that you remember my wording specifically about a "death rattle", but "we may be listening to a death rattle" differs from "we are listening to a death rattle".

                      Maybe when Bolsonaro doesn't invoke a military coup and the Republicans don't produce a coup by legal technicality, I will prance around about how wrong your predictions are. Nah, I won't do that. I recognize how carefully you couch your fears in unquantified chance. Would that you give others the same courtesy.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Maybe you’re projecting from your “Tesla’s on its death rattle” days?

                        I’ve always been a fan of Elon I don’t predict his downfall. I even find his trolling to be funny, which is why I repost some of it here. He’s just going to be constrained is all, and I don’t know if he has the temperament to deal with it.

                        89th8 Offline
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                        @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                        I’ve always been a fan of Elon I don’t predict his downfall. I even find his trolling to be funny, which is why I repost some of it here. He’s just going to be constrained is all, and I don’t know if he has the temperament to deal with it.

                        Same here. I'm definitely in camp Elon.

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                          @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
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                            #474

                            I wonder what the cost in lost advertising is vs the cost of paying off these employees vs the daily losses he states.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              That’s a little funny.

                              George KG Offline
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                              @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                              Turns out it's fake news.

                              On Twitter? C'mon man!

                              Seems that the "account" that was suspended was not that of Elon Musk @elonmusk, but that of @eIonmusk.

                              The letter after the "e" is an uppercase "i" in the "suspended" account.

                              Well played, though.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                I don’t care if commercial companies leave advertisement on Twitter. But this is too much to bear.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                  https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/viewtopic.php?p=1467233#p1467233

                                  Yes the FSD thing has always been one of Musk's more impossible claims. I'm happy for you that you remember my wording specifically about a "death rattle", but "we may be listening to a death rattle" differs from "we are listening to a death rattle".

                                  Maybe when Bolsonaro doesn't invoke a military coup and the Republicans don't produce a coup by legal technicality, I will prance around about how wrong your predictions are. Nah, I won't do that. I recognize how carefully you couch your fears in unquantified chance. Would that you give others the same courtesy.

                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #477

                                  @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                  Would that you give others the same courtesy.

                                  Speaking of courtesies, I made 5 observations about Musk’s takeover of Twitter. You responded with a comment about me.

                                  Maybe next time address the substance of the post?

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    To me, it is kind of like the politics saying - "easy to campaign but tough to govern". We will see how it works out with Mr. Musk.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      There is a lawsuit being filed by twitter employees, alleging that Musk was legally obligated to provide 60 days notice and retraining opportunities before a large layoff, by CA law.

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                                      @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      There is a lawsuit being filed by twitter employees, alleging that Musk was legally obligated to provide 60 days notice and retraining opportunities before a large layoff, by CA law.

                                      Musk has lawyers too:

                                      According to emails sent to laid off employees and an internal FAQ obtained by The Verge, those impacted will continue to be paid and receive benefits until dates that appear to match the length of the mass layoff notice required by US federal and state law. If they sign a “Release of All Claims” document and separation agreement, all US employees will then receive one month of base pay as severance that is taxed at the higher supplemental income rate.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        To me, it is kind of like the politics saying - "easy to campaign but tough to govern". We will see how it works out with Mr. Musk.

                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @taiwan_girl said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                        To me, it is kind of like the politics saying - "easy to campaign but tough to govern". We will see how it works out with Mr. Musk.

                                        I sure as heck wouldn’t want to work for him

                                        I was only joking

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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