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Coax to Ethernet?

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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    Another question. I have quite slow internet - about 3-5 Mbps download and about 1.5 Mbps upload. DTAC is offering a "hotspot" where you get the internet from a cell phone tower. Speeds are supposed to be maybe 15-20 Mbps.

    The hotspot box is about the size of playing card deck. I borrowed one from somebody and to get the best signal, the hotspot has to be placed in a certain location in my place. However, that means that other locations get a very week or random signal.

    So, my question is this:

    How to extend the range from the hotspot? The hotspot box has no external connections (other than the power port connection). Someone mentioned that you could set a router to work backwards - using it as a "bridge".

    Any thoughts from the technical "gurus" here? Thanks!

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    @taiwan_girl do you know if the hotspot device supports any of the following "Wi-Fi 6," "802.11ax," or "802.11ac" or "WDS"? (Check the box or any documentation that comes with the hotspot device, or post the exact brand/model of the hotspot device and I can try to look it up.)

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      @xenon said in Coax to Ethernet?:

      @89th So, I saw MoCa adapters on sale the other day. Got them and put my nest wifi points on the opposite sides of the house.

      It's pretty sweet. Pretty much full bandwidth on each side of the house. Next to no practical benefit 🙂

      Awesome! Now how's the connectivity on that sweet patio?

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      @89th said in Coax to Ethernet?:

      @xenon said in Coax to Ethernet?:

      @89th So, I saw MoCa adapters on sale the other day. Got them and put my nest wifi points on the opposite sides of the house.

      It's pretty sweet. Pretty much full bandwidth on each side of the house. Next to no practical benefit 🙂

      Awesome! Now how's the connectivity on that sweet patio?

      I will say - after years of trying different wifi router brands, the google ones have proven to be HIGHLY reliable. (they may not be the fastest)

      Resetting your wifi every couple of weeks seemed like a normal thing. I've had Google wifi for a few years now and I can't remember the last time I had to restart my wifi.

      Maybe all devices have gotten better and I just happened to have the google ones while that happened. Still - highly recommend.

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        @89th said in Coax to Ethernet?:

        @xenon said in Coax to Ethernet?:

        @89th So, I saw MoCa adapters on sale the other day. Got them and put my nest wifi points on the opposite sides of the house.

        It's pretty sweet. Pretty much full bandwidth on each side of the house. Next to no practical benefit 🙂

        Awesome! Now how's the connectivity on that sweet patio?

        I will say - after years of trying different wifi router brands, the google ones have proven to be HIGHLY reliable. (they may not be the fastest)

        Resetting your wifi every couple of weeks seemed like a normal thing. I've had Google wifi for a few years now and I can't remember the last time I had to restart my wifi.

        Maybe all devices have gotten better and I just happened to have the google ones while that happened. Still - highly recommend.

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        @xenon said in Coax to Ethernet?:

        ... I've had Google wifi for a few years now and I can't remember the last time I had to restart my wifi.

        I am guessing Google remotely manages your firmware update, and they probably update your firmware multiple times a year and "restart" for you after each update without you noticing.

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          @89th said in Coax to Ethernet?:

          @xenon said in Coax to Ethernet?:

          @89th So, I saw MoCa adapters on sale the other day. Got them and put my nest wifi points on the opposite sides of the house.

          It's pretty sweet. Pretty much full bandwidth on each side of the house. Next to no practical benefit 🙂

          Awesome! Now how's the connectivity on that sweet patio?

          I will say - after years of trying different wifi router brands, the google ones have proven to be HIGHLY reliable. (they may not be the fastest)

          Resetting your wifi every couple of weeks seemed like a normal thing. I've had Google wifi for a few years now and I can't remember the last time I had to restart my wifi.

          Maybe all devices have gotten better and I just happened to have the google ones while that happened. Still - highly recommend.

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          @xenon cool, I may look into the nest pro mesh set up… First, need to baseline where my current router is limited inside (and outside somewhat) if the house to see if it’s needed. I tried an extender last year for the garage/driveway but didn’t like how it changed the SSID and was stubborn to change back to the faster main router.

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            @Axtremus thanks! I will find out.

            @George-K From my understanding, the hotspot box is just that. There is a "port" for the power cord, but no other ports.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @Axtremus thanks! I will find out.

              @George-K From my understanding, the hotspot box is just that. There is a "port" for the power cord, but no other ports.

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              @taiwan_girl said in Coax to Ethernet?:

              From my understanding, the hotspot box is just that. There is a "port" for the power cord, but no other ports.

              So it sounds like a range extender might be what you need, rather than a router.

              (though a router can function as one).

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                @xenon I ordered the Google Nest Pro WiFi mesh setup, I'll take some benchmark before/after numbers to see if it's worth it. If not, I can return for free via Amazon, so why not.

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                  @xenon well I installed the Nest Pro. Short story is it was really easy to set up, but will be returning it.

                  Overall speeds in various rooms didn’t change much, most rooms were already plenty fast. Mainly I wanted a few slower spots to speed up, which they sort of did, but the trade-off is other faster rooms actually got a bit slower… ultimately not worth the extra hardware (aka moving parts).

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                    Jeff Bezos' philosophy is said to be 'not customer focused, but customer obsessed'. Every time I deal with a return through Amazon, I recall that. They bend over so far backwards to make it easy. And it matters a lot to how convenient it is to buy through them.

                    I guess they refuse to sell products that get returned a lot. Most cheaper and less reliable products I buy have an insert begging the buyer to contact them directly first if there are issues, rather than return to Amazon. I don't think they want to risk the wrath of Amazon. And they try harder to help you, too, with the ever-present risk of the Amazon return as an option.

                    Also the easy-open tape they use on their boxes consistently reminds me that they really want your experience to be a pleasant one.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      @xenon well I installed the Nest Pro. Short story is it was really easy to set up, but will be returning it.

                      Overall speeds in various rooms didn’t change much, most rooms were already plenty fast. Mainly I wanted a few slower spots to speed up, which they sort of did, but the trade-off is other faster rooms actually got a bit slower… ultimately not worth the extra hardware (aka moving parts).

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                      @89th said in Coax to Ethernet?:

                      @xenon well I installed the Nest Pro. Short story is it was really easy to set up, but will be returning it.

                      Overall speeds in various rooms didn’t change much, most rooms were already plenty fast. Mainly I wanted a few slower spots to speed up, which they sort of did, but the trade-off is other faster rooms actually got a bit slower… ultimately not worth the extra hardware (aka moving parts).

                      Makes sense - in terms of performance, they're not the best. The price is only really justified if you value the administration features and ease of use.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        Jeff Bezos' philosophy is said to be 'not customer focused, but customer obsessed'. Every time I deal with a return through Amazon, I recall that. They bend over so far backwards to make it easy. And it matters a lot to how convenient it is to buy through them.

                        I guess they refuse to sell products that get returned a lot. Most cheaper and less reliable products I buy have an insert begging the buyer to contact them directly first if there are issues, rather than return to Amazon. I don't think they want to risk the wrath of Amazon. And they try harder to help you, too, with the ever-present risk of the Amazon return as an option.

                        Also the easy-open tape they use on their boxes consistently reminds me that they really want your experience to be a pleasant one.

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                        @Horace said in Coax to Ethernet?:

                        Jeff Bezos' philosophy is said to be 'not customer focused, but customer obsessed'. Every time I deal with a return through Amazon, I recall that. They bend over so far backwards to make it easy. And it matters a lot to how convenient it is to buy through them.

                        I guess they refuse to sell products that get returned a lot. Most cheaper and less reliable products I buy have an insert begging the buyer to contact them directly first if there are issues, rather than return to Amazon. I don't think they want to risk the wrath of Amazon. And they try harder to help you, too, with the ever-present risk of the Amazon return as an option.

                        Also the easy-open tape they use on their boxes consistently reminds me that they really want your experience to be a pleasant one.

                        Indeed, this WiFi thing came in one of those plastic packages that you can re-use for returns (which is what I'm doing).

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                          Amazon is stupid easy for a bunch of returns. There's a whole foods near my house - they have a counter where you can return something without a box.

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                            Amazon is stupid easy for a bunch of returns. There's a whole foods near my house - they have a counter where you can return something without a box.

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                            @xenon said in Coax to Ethernet?:

                            Amazon is stupid easy for a bunch of returns. There's a whole foods near my house - they have a counter where you can return something without a box.

                            Kohl's is the same way. They also give you a coupon worth $5 for a purchase at Kohl's. Mine is about a mile away from my house.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Yup, I mainly use the UPS Store, but Kohl's sometimes, too.

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                                @89th said in Coax to Ethernet?:

                                @xenon well I installed the Nest Pro. Short story is it was really easy to set up, but will be returning it.

                                Overall speeds in various rooms didn’t change much, most rooms were already plenty fast. Mainly I wanted a few slower spots to speed up, which they sort of did, but the trade-off is other faster rooms actually got a bit slower… ultimately not worth the extra hardware (aka moving parts).

                                Makes sense - in terms of performance, they're not the best. The price is only really justified if you value the administration features and ease of use.

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                                @xenon Performance was actually fine. Basically mirrored what I already had with a single modem/router (the Xfinity "xfi"), so it wasn't worth the extra wifi points and hardware. I would recommend the system if you had a wider property or areas with real dead zones.

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