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Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.

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  • 89th8 89th

    @Jolly said in Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.:

    Oh, it's not helpless. We've had the Second Amendment for over 200 years, where for most of that time you could own and keep a cannon in your backyard, if you wanted to.

    Mass shootings are a relatively recent phenomenon.

    Ask yourself, What has changed?

    I've said it before, it's the media attention you get. Once the media stops posting the shooter's face, name, and manifesto... the number of these shootings will decrease. But the corporate press desks absolutely salivate over the ratings a shooting brings in. No one will admit it, or even realize it, but they love it.

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    @89th said in Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.:

    @Jolly said in Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.:

    Oh, it's not helpless. We've had the Second Amendment for over 200 years, where for most of that time you could own and keep a cannon in your backyard, if you wanted to.

    Mass shootings are a relatively recent phenomenon.

    Ask yourself, What has changed?

    I've said it before, it's the media attention you get. Once the media stops posting the shooter's face, name, and manifesto... the number of these shootings will decrease. But the corporate press desks absolutely salivate over the ratings a shooting brings in. No one will admit it, or even realize it, but they love it.

    Couple of things:

    1. Not everyone who shoots up a local area is doing it for the media publicity. Crazy comes in many, many different kinds.
    2. Sure the media companies admit it. All the time. Ask any journalist who covers these stories. What they'll say is that publishing a suspect's personal information and doing a story on them serves the public interest so no way are they not going to.

    Otherwise, yeah, that's basically the gist.

    Please love yourself.

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      The vast majority of “mass shootings” aren’t cases of gunmen walking into a school or grocery store and opening up fire on a bunch of strangers. Most mass shootings recorded in the US are gang related. You take out the gang bangers and you’ll find our numbers to be pretty comparable with most countries and lower than some.

      The Brad

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @89th said in Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.:

        @Jolly said in Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.:

        Oh, it's not helpless. We've had the Second Amendment for over 200 years, where for most of that time you could own and keep a cannon in your backyard, if you wanted to.

        Mass shootings are a relatively recent phenomenon.

        Ask yourself, What has changed?

        I've said it before, it's the media attention you get. Once the media stops posting the shooter's face, name, and manifesto... the number of these shootings will decrease. But the corporate press desks absolutely salivate over the ratings a shooting brings in. No one will admit it, or even realize it, but they love it.

        Couple of things:

        1. Not everyone who shoots up a local area is doing it for the media publicity. Crazy comes in many, many different kinds.
        2. Sure the media companies admit it. All the time. Ask any journalist who covers these stories. What they'll say is that publishing a suspect's personal information and doing a story on them serves the public interest so no way are they not going to.

        Otherwise, yeah, that's basically the gist.

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        @Aqua-Letifer said in Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.:

        1. Not everyone who shoots up a local area is doing it for the media publicity. Crazy comes in many, many different kinds.

        True, but I would argue the media is why we see it more often, starting with Columbine.

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          image.jpeg Pro se.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            image.jpeg Pro se.

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            @George-K said in Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.:

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            I wouldn’t be able to defend that SUV, either. I mean, besides all the dead kids and elderly, think about the freaking emissions that monster was putting out! I doubt it was getting more than 15 MPG during the rampage, and that hurts us all!

            The Brad

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              SUVs that don't come to a full stop for pedestrians are bad, full stop.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                SUVs that don't come to a full stop for pedestrians are bad, full stop.

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                @Horace said in Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.:

                SUVs that don't come to a full stop for pedestrians are bad, full stop.

                FIFYNNTTM

                The Brad

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                  I went to breakfast in my buddy's Tesla this morning. As much as I like them, there was another guy there in a Tesla hoodie that said 'BE LESS WRONG' on the front.

                  Jeez--they're getting to be like vegans.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Remember?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Remember?

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                      @George-K said in Driver plows through Waukesha, WI Christmas parade.:

                      Remember?

                      Not the same publications. Like at all. And some of the ones in the second half were opinion pieces.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        All of them were opinion pieces in the second group.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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